New build for up to £1000

Gonzo100100

Gonzo100100

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Hi,

Since yesterday I am experiencing a flood of crashes (blue screen). WhoCrashed points to video card and I am 95% certain the video card broke.

Report from WhoCrashed includes:

nvlddmkm.sys (NVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 471.11 , NVIDIA Corporation)

All of my PC’s components are (in most cases) way older than my GTX 970 so I think it’s finally time to get the whole new build.

I don’t want to go over £1000. It would be preferable to spend less (as little as possible) providing I will be able to play modern games (that I will almost never play anyway – not much time) on high settings comfortably (I don’t care that much about ultra-graphics in some, whatever game is the most draining on the calculating power).

Anyway, the most important purpose for the new build: longevity, if it will last 5-10 years, it will be awesome.

Also, because I always used Nvidia video cards + Intel CPU I would like Nvidia + Intel in my new build

Finally, I do not need a case, HDD/SSD, a monitor and perhaps I could use my current power supply EVAGA 650 G2

and my CPU air cooler

Noctua NH-U12P SE2 CPU Cooler Universal for LGA1366 / 1156/775 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 with 12 mm Fan Heatpipes max. 19.8dBA

If for some reason my old power supply and CPU cooler are not good for the new build, please let me know.

I will appreciate your recommendations, thanks.
 
I tried to do some research and came up with a build, but some help would be appreciated…


ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus WiFi Intel Z490 LGA 1200 ATX gaming motherboard with M.2, 14 DrMOS power stages, WiFi 6

£209.34


Intel Core i7-10700K Desktop Processor 8 Cores up to 5.1 GHz Unlocked LGA1200 (Intel 400 Series Chipset) 125W (BX8070110700K)

£303.96


Corsair CMK32GX4M2D3200C16 Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit, Black

£176.82


GEFORCE GTX 1660 OC 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-EXPRESS GRAPHICS CARD

£359.99


Evga 750 Gq, 80+ Gold 750W, Semi Modular, Evga Eco Mode, Power Supply 210-Gq-0750-V3

£102.59


TOTAL: £1152.7


The rest:

I would reuse:

-my old SSD

-my old DVD drive

-my old CPU cooler Noctua NH-U12P SE2 CPU Cooler Universal for LGA1366 / 1156/775 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 with 12 mm Fan Heatpipes max. 19.8dBA

Please let me know if it is alright to do so, or I rather should get some new, better one. This one worked perfectly well for 10 years and the whole time it keeps my CPU alive.


It is especially important for me to know if 750W is enough.

I know that the graphic card will need 450W, motherboard 130W, CPU 125W, that makes 705W

I already know I can’t use my old perfectly working EVAGA 650 G2. Anyway, how much power will I need beyond that 705W? Can it be 750W or should I go 850W for example:

Evga 850 Gq, 80+ Gold 850W, Semi Modular, Evga Eco Mode, Power Supply 210-Gq-0850-V3 for £125.47 ?


I am also considering how to cut the price. For example, if I bought GEFORCE GTX 1050TI STORMX 4096MB PCI-EXPRESS GDDR5 GRAPHICS CARD for £179.99 That is 300W and I perhaps could reuse my EVAGA 650 G2. In that case I would save £282.59. That would bring the price down to £870.11 except it would be a considerable downgrade to my current Gigabyte Geforce 970 GTX (that isn’t working as it should anymore).

I would preferably get some cheaper graphic card than GEFORCE GTX 1660 OC 6144MB that would not be downgrade from 970GTX and would allow me to reuse my power supply, is that possible?

I think it is best to save on graphic card because over 10 years I had to change 0 CPUs, 1 motherboard and 3 GPUs. They break every 3 years so if I could save now and in next 3 years get some good one + new power supply it would be great.
 
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You may want to remove the competitor naming else you will get in trouble with the mods.

I'd go with something like this. cpu is easily upgradable to 16 cores if needed in the future. the motherboard is very good but on offer right now so reduced to £140 and Asus currently have an offer to claim a cashback of £45 taking it to £95 for what would be a £200 board and bringing the build to £1000 total.

https://promotion.asus.com/en/uk/q2gamingweeks/tac

Whether or not you go with the 3060 is up to you but even the 1660 is really overpriced for the performance it has while being quite a bit weaker than a 3060.


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,054.01 (includes shipping: £11.10)
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Gonzo100100 said:
Anyway, the most important purpose for the new build: longevity, if it will last 5-10 years, it will be awesome.

Noctua NH-U12P SE2 CPU Cooler Universal for LGA1366 / 1156/775 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 with 12 mm Fan Heatpipes max. 19.8dBA
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Most expensive part of gaming PC, graphics card, will never last good that long.
And with their current prices you won't be getting that long lasting CPU either into same budget.
While six core is now enough for nearly any game, consoles have 8 core CPU with 7 cores dedicated exclusively for games.
That will be base level AAA game developers aim in some years with heaviest games becoming capable to utilizing even more cores.
(CyberPunk 2077 has fps minimums scaling up to 12 cores at the heaviest settings)

And Intel who was the biggest obstacle for advance of game development in the last decade has no upgradability.
AMD has already more powerfull CPUs available than Intel with prices actually decreasing when they become older.
Also there's going to be one improved CPU design coming for current socket.


You could get AM4 mounting kit for free from Noctua.
But because of issues caused by Corona virus they might have stock issues and long delivery time and might be best to just buy it yourself:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/noctua-nm-am4-mounting-kit-hs-037-nc.html
Anyway that's not that beefy cooler by todays scale and without off set fin stack fan is likely to block at least one memory slot:
Design is from time when memory controller was in actual "North bridge" chip of mobo and memory slots farther from CPU than currently.
 
I don’t want to buy more expensive GPU than 1660 because they break too often, in my case always between 1 – 6 months after warranty expires. 20% upgrade is ok considering my current 970 GTX just crashes all the time.

If it is OK to stay on my Evaga 650W I’ll do that.

Before I read your responses, I thought that maybe I could go to 11th generation of Intel CPU and I have built a basket on Overclockers like this:


Crucial Ballistix RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit

Stock Code MY-20U-CR - £188.99


Intel Core i7-11700K 3.6GHz (Rocket Lake) Socket LGA1200 Processor - Retail

Stock Code CP-695-IN - £349.99


Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 OC 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

Stock Code GX-1AV-GI - £359.99


Gigabyte Z590 Vision G (Socket LGA 1200) DDR4 ATX Motherboard

Stock Code MB-59E-GI - £239.99


Total: £1150.06


However, if I would just modify Joxeon’s recommendation and get GTX 1660 instead of RTX 3060, delete the PSU, I would have to pay £714.96

I know that on Joxeon’s list all items are on offer which is great, but I always used Invidia and I am simply used to it. If someone could confirm that his list is better, I’ll just take it.

But also, if someone could comment on my list, is it worth to go to the 11th generation of Intel CPU? Or I would just waste money here compared to the other list?

Finally, if someone could elaborate on 16 gb vs 32 gb RAM…


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@EsaT

So, it is better to go to AMD but if not RYZEN 5 3600 SIX CORE 4.2GHZ then what would be good CPU to well, still, last as much as possible.
 
I speced the ryzen 3600 as its cheap and will be more than powerful enough to drive a 3060 or 1660.

In 3 years time when your GPU breaks and you have to buy another you can pick up a 5900X CPU which has 12 cores and will drop straight into your board, you could buy one now and not have to bother upgrading but it'll cost you almost £500 whereas in 3 years it will probably be £200.

Gonzo100100 said:
I don’t want to go over £1000. It would be preferable to spend less (as little as possible) providing I will be able to play modern games (that I will almost never play anyway – not much time) on high settings comfortably (I don’t care that much about ultra-graphics in some, whatever game is the most draining on the calc
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It would do what you need while being cheap.

Gonzo100100 said:
Anyway, the most important purpose for the new build: longevity, if it will last 5-10 years, it will be awesome
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It would also give you this with a drop in CPU upgrade in 3 years when you get the newer GPU, you could just go for a stronger CPU now but it's kind of wasted with the level of GPU your looking at buying and you'd be better just upgrading it later.

the chart below will highlight what I mean about CPU / GPU scaling. The 5700XT is similar to an RTX 3060 and a 5600XT is slightly faster than a 1660. As you can see a faster CPU makes no difference with those GPUs and its only when you move up to a RTX 3070 does the 5600X start pulling ahead of the 3600.

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@Joxeon

You have a point; I am going with your list, just with my old PSU and with 1660 GPU. Thank you for your input.


However, before I go through the checkout, I’ll need a new cable or some switch to connect my screen. I think GTX 970 (my current GPU) has DVI-I ports and GTX 1660 doesn’t have them, it looks like HDMI but is that it? What do I need?
 
Gonzo100100 said:
@Joxeon

You have a point; I am going with your list, just with my old PSU and with 1660 GPU. Thank you for your input.


However, before I go through the checkout, I’ll need a new cable or some switch to connect my screen. I think GTX 970 (my current GPU) has DVI-I ports and GTX 1660 doesn’t have them, it looks like HDMI but is that it? What do I need?
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You can get a DP to DVI converter, this should do the trick.

You probably should think about upgrading the monitor though at some point as it must be getting on a bit.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £16.43 (includes shipping: £3.48)
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