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NiteSurfer

NiteSurfer

NiteSurfer

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Hey all.

Basically. My priority is Video Editing in 64Bit. I use PowerDirector 9 Ultra.
(editing in HD is choppy and Sucks)


My current system is:

Intel 2 Quad 9550 @ 2.83Ghz (unclocked) With H50 Water Cooler.
EAH 4890 Graphics Card

'yeah I know, What's that about'. well OC didn't make one hoot of a difference to the performance of video Encoding, So I put everyting back to standard.

Last month on ebay I won for £72 a brand new unopened Asus P6T SE Mobo. I was so hyped and fully intended to go with the i7 950 CPU. However prices have since shot up somewhat, more then £50 difference, 5 weeks ago I could have bought one new online for £160. now there nearly £220 on average.

Then I started reading about the actual performace difference on benchmarks like passmark, that it's only about 15% quicker then my current Q9550 in general.

So without boring you to hell about what does and what doesn't, I really need to know if i'm wasting my time going to an i7 950. When I should really be looking at a i7 2600k setup.

Some advice would be great, My budget is around £500 for new mobo/processor/Ram. But I can wait a bit longer for around £600.

Already have PSU/Graphics card/ Operating system/drives etc..
And HAF 932 Case.
Won't bother overclocking to start with. (unless it's a pre-overclocked bundle)

Any ideas on what i should do?.
 
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Amazing processor, lots of RAM and a high quality motherboard
Great combo for video editing!
 
I have heard that the p67 asus boards can be very faulty and many people say stay way from them. But ive only heard good things about both the msi and gigabyte range of p67 boards so ye they are!
 
actaully that bundle looks great for you allthough youwill need lots of RAM when video editing so maybe not to great :P
Have you thought about squeezing in a SSD in your budget when you intall windows and apps on it they run faster then you could imagine!
 
Moodle said:
actaully that bundle looks great for you allthough youwill need lots of RAM when video editing so maybe not to great :P
Have you thought about squeezing in a SSD in your budget when you intall windows and apps on it they run faster then you could imagine!
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Yeah! that's the only problem with overclocking, more ram is less stable, or at least harder to get right.

Your right about the Ram, Powerdirector 9 just eats up what it can apparantly. Although I've yet to actually see proof of this. I've thought about SSD. Its sounds great if you could install more then just windows 7 on it. But the bigger drives are an absulute fortune at the moment. I use up about 300Gb of 1TB on my C: system drive at the moment using raid 1.
 
I am very surprised that you think that overclocking your cpu made no difference to encoding times. So much so that I don't believe you. The only explanation that I can think of is your RAM, how much do you have?

When you say it's choppy, is your cpu load at 100%?
 
i7 2600k £250
MSI P67A-GD65 £140
Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) 1,600MHz £70
CPU cooler of your choice up to £30

This gives you the same contents as the bundle but with 8GB of RAM.

Overclock it yourself to 4.6GHz.
 
I dont think overclocking the cpu will make that much NOTICABLE diffrence in terms of choppyness, I think is what is meant. I agree and think you are running out of RAM causing lag when encoding.
 
You want a motherboard that allows you to use Intel's quicksync feature as it improves video encoding significantly.

P67 boards don't support it
H67 boards do support it, but don't allow overclocking.

Therefore i would wait for the Z68 motherboards due next month.
 
Disco Boy said:
I am very surprised that you think that overclocking your cpu made no difference to encoding times. So much so that I don't believe you. The only explanation that I can think of is your RAM, how much do you have?

When you say it's choppy, is your cpu load at 100%?
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I have 8GB of gSkill 1066. I can't preview a HD project without it getting choppy playback. It's fine on lower settings like 760x576. But it struggles with 1024x786 upwads. Cyberlink's explanations for this involve cores and Hyper-threading capabilities ?.
 
NiteSurfer said:
I have 8GB of gSkill 1066. I can't preview a HD project without it getting choppy playback. It's fine on lower settings like 760x576. But it struggles with 1024x786 upwads. Cyberlink's explanations for this involve cores and Hyper-threading capabilities ?.
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Really? I can edit ProRes 4444 on my iMac smoothly at 1080p and that has the same RAM and equivalent computer horsepower.

Sounds like whatever software you use isn't very well written.

Regardless I'd get 16gb and go for the i7 2600k. You can get a good clock out of that and it can handle 8 threads. Should allow you to edit 4k never mind 1080p!
 
LordSplodge said:
Really? I can edit ProRes 4444 on my iMac smoothly at 1080p and that has the same RAM and equivalent computer horsepower.

Sounds like whatever software you use isn't very well written.

Regardless I'd get 16gb and go for the i7 2600k. You can get a good clock out of that and it can handle 8 threads. Should allow you to edit 4k never mind 1080p!
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Can you add multiple HD tracks and titles overlapping at that resolution?.

Power Director 9 Ultra 64Bit. Is the world's first 64bit video Editor, so given the right PC requirements, it's the closest thing to actual Professional Video Editing used by Television Studios. Vegas Pro 10 and Pinnacle are all junk in comparison. I've never heard of ProRes 4444, obviously an apple only thing.


P.s does that software really cost $999, Jeeez.. It should be better writen then power director for that money.
 
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I have 8GB of gSkill 1066. I can't preview a HD project without it getting choppy playback. It's fine on lower settings like 760x576. But it struggles with 1024x786 upwads. Cyberlink's explanations for this involve cores and Hyper-threading capabilities ?.
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It's playback that you're struggling with? Then your gpu is the problem because that should be doing the work (which I suspect it isn't, so you need to sort the software out).
 
NiteSurfer said:
Can you add multiple HD tracks and titles overlapping at that resolution?.

Power Director 9 Ultra 64Bit. Is the world's first 64bit video Editor, so given the right PC requirements, it's the closest thing to actual Professional Video Editing used by Television Studios. Vegas Pro 10 and Pinnacle are all junk in comparison. I've never heard of ProRes 4444, obviously an apple only thing.


P.s does that software really cost $999, Jeeez.. It should be better writen then power director for that money.
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Yes I can edit multiple HD tracks. I work in the highest resolution I can and then downscale on output.

Television studios use Avid (PC) or Final Cut Studio (Mac) mostly from what I've seen.

Final Cut Studio is worth the price on entry for Motion alone. Anyway the softwares cheap compared to the cost of hardware. :D

Here's why I like working in ProRes 4444

2K, HD (up to 1920x1080), & SD resolutions
4:4:4 chroma sampling
up to 12-bit pixel depth
Variable Bit Rate (VBR)
Alpha Channel Support
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2K, Chroma and Alpha channel baby!
 
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