New build - go an i7, a Quad Core or just a new monitor?

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Hi,

I am about to update my 2003 Intel P4 Asus P4P800 Delux (With Zalman CNPS 7000 Cu-Al or whatever it is 'flower') combo to a new system and would welcome constructive thoughts and input please.

I have toyed with building an i7 system but the component parts are simply too expensive at this time. I have considered buying an i7 XPS desktop as I find it hard to build a Quad Core system for the price of their i7 systems - putting together a component i7 system costs more than Dell charge even though Dell's i7s include a good variety of monitor options. However, I have read numerous reviews from i7 XPS owner complaining that the Dells are noisy and peace & quiet are my priorities.

I have a Sony Vaio circa 2007 and a friend has commented that I should simpy buy myself a nice big monitor such as the 24 inch Samsung and a new ergonomic keyboard, double the RAM in the Vaio from 1GB to 2GB and simply use the Vaio as my main PC with an external backup drive solution. Then, 12 months from now, simply update to a newer laptop. I am sat here now in my living room watching Midsommers Murders whilst typing this on the Vaio so there is some point in what he is saying BUT... I find that long periods of typing on the Vaio causes me RSI in my fingers and forearms and my breathing becomes very poor from being hunched over it. Of course, with a new big monitor sat on my office desk and a new keyboard to plug the Vaio into things might be different. Anyhow, I digress...

Anyhow, I would welcome advice on what CPU Cooler I should go for my new system. I am not interested in gaming, over-clocking or anything other than a fast but QUIET PC. I might wish to do some video editing on it eventually.

I currently have a 2003 Antec Sonata case and aim to try and keep it. I have updated the PSU to a modular Corsair 520w which is whisper quiet. Currently I am considering:

My current Antec Sonata Case
My current Corsair 520w PSU
Asus P5Q Delux Motherboard
OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400C5 Dual Channel Vista Gold Series DDR2
Samsung SpinPoint F1 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM
Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz (1066FSB)

Or:

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 LGA775 'Yorkfield' 2.33GHz 4MB-cache (1333FSB) Processor - Retail

I haven't really decided at the moment whether to buy a £50 fanless VGA card or opt for something like the fanless Gigabyte GV-R485MC-1GH - 1GB Gigabyte HD 4850 for £150 and future-proof myself whilst allowing myself to buy a bigger monitor such as a 20, 23 or even a 24 inch later on this year. Currently I have a 17 inch LG which was state of the art back in 2003 and it has been a pretty fine monitor to date but now seems small and, as I am tall, I like the sound of new monitors such as the Samsung which are height adjustable.

So, after typing this it appears that I have a few questions more than my original one.

1. As I am building new should I go for an i7 or a Quad Core?

Hmm, component parts for an i7 self-build are just too prohibitive in price currently and, as tempting as the Dells are, I know I could not hack the noise that I have seen reviewers complain about. Also, I remember buying one of the first state of the art P2s or P3s and Intel changed the chipset for subsquent chips which meant the Dell was an upgrade dead-end straight-away. After that experience I began building my own PCs.

2. Should I simply keep the laptop and buy the extra RAM, a nice big monitor, an ergonomic keyboard and an external backup solution?

I am not sure about this. I can see pros and cons. I like the flexibility of having a laptop to take here and there but my current desktop, as old as it is, has a lot of data, files, images and software on it. I also have been reading about people opting to go back to desktops from laptops as they found that they ended up working all hours in all places because their laptop was so portable. The desktop in a room somewhere allows you to close the door and switch your mind off. Too much stress in IT these days.

3. If I go down the Quad Core build it myself what CPU cooler that is silent or near enough silent for my above two chosen CPU options is best?

Haven't decided whether the 65 or 45 chip is best. The 45 CPU would be cooler and hence need less cooling I guess.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. I would be grateful for help and thoughts on the above.


T.
 
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Well, here's my take...

1. i7's are quad cores too :p I would recommend one if you've got the cash for it as they are blisteringly quick however as you don't game then a Q6600 would probably do you just fine.

2. You could do but you have to remember that laptops are rarely anywhere near the power of an equivalent desktop and lack all the extra options that you get with a desktop. For me, a laptop is simply a mobile device for watching the occasional DVD, doing some word processing and internet browsing.

3. A 65nm chip will run hotter and use a bit more power than a 45nm although I doubt that would be a problem for you. As far as CPU coolers go, I'd recommend the ThermalRight Ultra Extreme. It's very common on here and as it's just a giant heatsink, you can buy your own fans to attach to it :) As long as your case supports 120mm fans, it should be quiet as well as being cool. 80mm fans are noisy!
 
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Hi

I would probably advise against the i7 in your case because I just don't see the added benefits over a regular Quad Core since you don't run any CPU/GPU intense programs often.

The 4850 seems like a popular choice because you can watch your HD content and of course get some decent FPS on certain games, good for occassional gamers.

In terms of cooling, I would go with a high quality cooler that way you can use quieter fans which will reduce noise. I personally have a Thermalright Ultra 120 Black, combined with 2 120mm fan running at 1500rpm which are only 19DB each. But of course there are some other coolers with similar effecieny.

One last thing you might want to get memory with better speed like 1066Mhz, they are classed as 8500 instead of the 6400.

Good luck with your choice :)

Blade
 
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Thanks both for your suggestions - much appreciated.

Good point about the memory also. I had been thinking whether going with the higher Mhz would help at all - is the difference that noticeable?
 
Q6600 over a Q8200 I'd say, but I'd recommend going with a Q9550 really at the moment as these will be nice and nippy and faster than both other cpus mentioned here. If you have a lot of money to burn then i7s are good, but for most people they are overpriced so at the moment most people are better off with the Core 2 Quads. (Note: Core 2 Quads Nightmare ;))

I upgraded from a very similar P4 system to you to a Quad Q9xxx (via an E8400) and the jump was massive :) so whatever you decide you should be happy.

With regards to your laptop, upgrade the RAM to 2GB anyway, but don't bother with the rest. Just leave it as a portable system that you can use occasionally. The extra RAM won't cost you much, but will offer a nice improvement over the 1GB you already have.
 
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