New Build - Help me out.

Retail / OEM : You get 3 years warranty. CPUs don't really break, or they break straight away (defect, which is very unlikely) or never, unless you do something stupid with them. Retail CPUs are also more attractive for the second hand market, since you have a nice intel box, and the retail CPU cooler, but really you wouldn't resale that CPU on its own unless you felt the need to go i7 (unlikely).

micro-atx means smaller board. You get less PCI express slots, and things are crammed a bit closer together. Usually, unless you want a small system, an ATX board is a more sensible option. Note that a dual slot GPU (99% of them are) will already cover an extra PCI-E slot. If you are thinking of adding stuff like a TV card, audio card, wireless network card, or another graphics card, micro-atx is not a good idea in general.
 
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OK so that board is matx. That isn't going to work if I want to add some components. Any other board you can suggest that isn't baby blue. I'm picky sorry. :p
 
TorreZ said:
OK so that board is matx. That isn't going to work if I want to add some components. Any other board you can suggest that isn't baby blue. I'm picky sorry. :p
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The ATX version of the Extreme 4, the Z77X-D3H, Z77X-UD3H, the Sabertooth, the UD5H. Most boards are blue, or m-atx red (Asus, AsRock Fatality).

I wouldn't get bogged down by the look of the board tbh. Performance, stability and features should be a priority.
 
So you reckon the board I have added here?


YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £179.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £109.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 500R Midi Tower Case - Black £99.95
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £85.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £47.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler (Socket LGA2011/1366/1155/1156/775/ AMD AM3/AM3+/AM2/AM2+/FM1) £30.98
Total : £568.99 (includes shipping : £11.75).



This will give me room to update and add where as the m-atx wont really?

Or do you think this would be a better bet?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-064-AK
 
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your build is getting more expensive? for £20 its worth it for two extra years worry free, m-atx is fine for what you will be doing atx is only really worth it if you will be running two GPU's, one sound card, maybe a PCI-e wifi card or raid card.

if (like your self) you will be running one card an matx is fine because its has two pci-e slots you can at a later date upgrade to two gpus or add another pci-e based peripheral.

also matx is just as capable at oc'ing a cpu! remember with a retail cpu you get the cooler so once your happy with your build and its stable save up get an after market cooler and oc the s##t out of it, if it goes wrong you have a nice long warrenty!!

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £189.95
1 x Asrock Z77 Extreme4 M Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £101.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 500R Midi Tower Case - Black £99.95
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £85.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £47.99
Total : £539.96 (includes shipping : £11.75).

 
Well then that is that then. You have cleared it all up for me. Like you said the only thing I may do in the future is add a second gpu, maybe.

I don't plan on OC straight away so you reckon the stock cooler with the retail one will be fine till then?
 
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £189.95
1 x Plextor M2S 256GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (PX-256M2S) £124.99
1 x Asrock Z77 Extreme4 M Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £101.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 500R Midi Tower Case - Black £99.95
1 x GeIL Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD38GB1600C11DC) £43.99
Total : £574.97 (includes shipping : £11.75).



Retail CPU with the longer warranty and heatsink.

I do love the look of the asrock extreme mobos too. because it's mATX although it can do SLI/xfire i would suggest you just go with the best single GPU setup you can.The RAM is much cheaper, ok it's CAS11 but in the real world it makes no odds. It also ties in nicely to the colour scheme ;) The SSD is a lil more money but it's much bigger :)

You'll notice no aftermarket heatsink but I would suggest you add one later. Your not that far from free P&P. If you were to do a build log your post count would increase plenty ;)
To complete the look you might like to cool the CPU with something like this

YOUR BASKET
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366/LGA2011/AM2/AM3) (CWCH100) £85.98
1 x Titan Fenrir Evo CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156//LGA1366/AMD K8/AM2/AM2+/AM3) £37.99
Total : £123.97 (includes shipping : FREE).



Free P&P is great for nabbing great parts when they come up on offer at the right price :D

Hope this helps, look forward to seeing what you settle on

p.s Personally i prefer that case in white but it's your build your rules lol
 
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TorreZ said:
So you reckon the board I have added here?


YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £179.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £109.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 500R Midi Tower Case - Black £99.95
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £85.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £47.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler (Socket LGA2011/1366/1155/1156/775/ AMD AM3/AM3+/AM2/AM2+/FM1) £30.98
Total : £568.99 (includes shipping : £11.75).



This will give me room to update and add where as the m-atx wont really?

Or do you think this would be a better bet?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-064-AK
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Get that board, ignore what the above say, the ASrock is inferior and has less warranty (2 vs 3 years).

Getting a full size ATX board provides a better layout for SLI/Crossfire.
 
TorreZ said:
So you reckon the board I have added here?


YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £179.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £109.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 500R Midi Tower Case - Black £99.95
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s KIT with Norton Ghost - (MZ-7PC128D/EU) £85.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £47.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler (Socket LGA2011/1366/1155/1156/775/ AMD AM3/AM3+/AM2/AM2+/FM1) £30.98
Total : £568.99 (includes shipping : £11.75).



This will give me room to update and add where as the m-atx wont really?

Or do you think this would be a better bet?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-064-AK
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I'd go with that. Retail CPU if you feel the 3 years warranty is worth it.
 
honosuseri said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £189.95
1 x Plextor M2S 256GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (PX-256M2S) £124.99
1 x Asrock Z77 Extreme4 M Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £101.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 500R Midi Tower Case - Black £99.95
1 x GeIL Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GD38GB1600C11DC) £43.99
Total : £574.97 (includes shipping : £11.75).



Retail CPU with the longer warranty and heatsink.

I do love the look of the asrock extreme mobos too. because it's mATX although it can do SLI/xfire i would suggest you just go with the best single GPU setup you can.The RAM is much cheaper, ok it's CAS11 but in the real world it makes no odds. It also ties in nicely to the colour scheme ;) The SSD is a lil more money but it's much bigger :)

You'll notice no aftermarket heatsink but I would suggest you add one later. Your not that far from free P&P. If you were to do a build log your post count would increase plenty ;)
To complete the look you might like to cool the CPU with something like this

YOUR BASKET
1 x Corsair Hydro H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366/LGA2011/AM2/AM3) (CWCH100) £85.98
1 x Titan Fenrir Evo CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156//LGA1366/AMD K8/AM2/AM2+/AM3) £37.99
Total : £123.97 (includes shipping : FREE).



Free P&P is great for nabbing great parts when they come up on offer at the right price :D

Hope this helps, look forward to seeing what you settle on

p.s Personally i prefer that case in white but it's your build your rules lol
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sorry but plextor are cheap for a reason, just like with psu's never skimp on your main OS SSD, if it fails its hard work to reconfigure when you get your replacement and hard to replace all the data you loose! iv learnt that from experience, samsung and crucial are the only SSD's i would fit, you may get less space but at least you get peace of mind.

good shout with the coolers

stulid said:
Get that board, ignore what the above say, the ASrock is inferior and has less warranty (2 vs 3 years).

Getting a full size ATX board provides a better layout for SLI/Crossfire.
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the boards are similar in price but asrock are in no way inferior, that is your opinion!

TorreZ said:
Well then that is that then. You have cleared it all up for me. Like you said the only thing I may do in the future is add a second gpu, maybe.

I don't plan on OC straight away so you reckon the stock cooler with the retail one will be fine till then?
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good choice, i will be running my stock cooler for a while until my prodigy case arrives i will be upping some pics soon :)
 
Please don't teach me to suck eggs Buzz :(

The plextor SSD actually has some good reviews, the main complaint against the drive was it's price. If you are calling it cheap then that issue clearly doesn't factor in any more does it? ;)

I like the look of the Asrock mobo as i said before (i forgot to mention the THX rated onboard audio). With my beige trousers on I would lean towards the GB mobo as it is more practical being a larger mobo and has a longer warranty....this was discussed before my post anyway.

Personally i prefer substance over styling. The OP didn't want blue in the build so I did my best to style my spec to suit the Asrock colour scheme....it's only my opinion but I think i did a pretty good job.
 
honosuseri said:
Please don't teach me to suck eggs Buzz :(

The plextor SSD actually has some good reviews, the main complaint against the drive was it's price. If you are calling it cheap then that issue clearly doesn't factor in any more does it? ;)

I like the look of the Asrock mobo as i said before (i forgot to mention the THX rated onboard audio). With my beige trousers on I would lean towards the GB mobo as it is more practical being a larger mobo and has a longer warranty....this was discussed before my post anyway.

Personally i prefer substance over styling. The OP didn't want blue in the build so I did my best to style my spec to suit the Asrock colour scheme....it's only my opinion but I think i did a pretty good job.
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i apologize mate no harm intended, i was merely stating some facts for the op.
 
No harm no foul bud, as you said it's our opinions :)

I've just noticed stulid has knocked me for using the Asrock mobo in another thread :(

I'm not really buying into the spacing argument over the mATX mobo when the OP is wanting a midi tower case. With the larger ATX mobo in the case a second GPU would sit very close to the PSU, so to be fair it's really tit4tat between the GB and asrock other than the warranty.
 
honosuseri said:
No harm no foul bud, as you said it's our opinions :)

I've just noticed stulid has knocked me for using the Asrock mobo in another thread :(

I'm not really buying into the spacing argument over the mATX mobo when the OP is wanting a midi tower case. With the larger ATX mobo in the case a second GPU would sit very close to the PSU, so to be fair it's really tit4tat between the GB and asrock other than the warranty.
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sound like a personal vendetta to me :p
 
Ok so it looks like it would make more sense to go for the GB mobo as it has an extra years warranty. Correct?

It wasnt really the blue i was worried about it was just that first mobo was horrific :p
 
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