New build, old builder

[Tremaine]

Hi and just seeking confirmation or critique. Having not built anything since a 4570k and my present system being a prebuilt (10400F with a 3060TI) I'm very out of sorts with the present gear and have gotten myself in a loop.

Looking at building a new system, the idea being it is powerful enough to bump me a few of generations again. I'm not fussed about inter generation up gradability as in practicality, you just end up swapping the lot out in the jump anyway, I'm not a perpetual tinkerer.
As such and with some minor research (Frame chaser lunatic, reddit etc) I've ended up selecting the following:-

Lian Li 216 case (Purchased)
14700K (Purchased)
Arctic liquid rev 2 360 (Purchased)
990 Pro 4TB (Already owned)

Mobo option - Z790 Aorus elite Wifi 7 (8k Ram speed support apparently)
Ram option 1 - Team group T force delta 32GB 7200
Ram option 2 - G skill Trident Z5 32GB 7200
PSU option - Corsair RM1000x
The GFX option will likely be a super 4080 or 7900 XTX a bit further down the line, for now I'll just drop the 3060 in to tick it over till I pull the trigger on that.

I was hovering over the mobo and Ram in the basket but having doubts didn't pull the trigger. I'm reading how memory speed and mobos with DDR 5 are a bit of a minefield. I vetoed Asus due to their customer care issues but when you look into it, it appears most seem pretty poor.
Am I asking for trouble by going for fast RAM and board, is it actually necessary or overkill?

Use case is mainly gaming including VR (worse than 4k) which my present system struggles at.

If you got this far, cheers for reading.

 

[Tetras]

Am I asking for trouble by going for fast RAM and board, is it actually necessary or overkill?

You may want to watch this:

intel XMPs and motherboard QVLs are a useless mess.

My Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/buildzoidTeespring: https://teespring.com/stores/actually-hardcore-overclockingBandcamp: https://machineforscreams.bandca...

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Personally: I'd just get a cheap half-decent 6000-6400 kit and leave it at that.

 

[Tremaine]

You may want to watch this:

intel XMPs and motherboard QVLs are a useless mess.

My Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/buildzoidTeespring: https://teespring.com/stores/actually-hardcore-overclockingBandcamp: https://machineforscreams.bandca...

www.youtube.com

Personally: I'd just get a cheap half-decent 6000-6400 kit and leave it at that.

Cheers for that, it reads into the silicon lottery problem. If I'm understanding, I could go for it with the combination I have selected and I should have a reasonable probability of getting the 7200 speed to work with good stability as it seems to be at the lower end of the maxxed out failures. And worst case I would just have to clock them at a lower speed if I was bang out of luck on the controller. It seems according to him, it's past 7200 you are basically in the pot luck realm.

What you suggest is just go for a cheaper combo a bit slower that should just work without issue and just save some pennies, so I guess it's just whether I'm willing to spend extra on getting another 800mhz with a minor chance of it not working.

I guess the other question to ask, is there any meaningful difference between the RAM speeds in actual use, would it be noticeable and is it even worth the extra?

 

[Tetras]

I guess the other question to ask, is there any meaningful difference between the RAM speeds in actual use, would it be noticeable and is it even worth the extra?

It depends on what you're doing, but usually you need e.g. a big CPU bottleneck or something that needs bandwidth, for it to be noticeable. So, if you play at lower resolutions/settings (like 1080p/Low) in FPS games, then it will make a bigger difference than playing an RPG at 4K on ultra.

There is a difference, but usually you're far better off (price/perf) spending the £100-£150 on very high-end memory on a better CPU or graphics card. I'd only suggest considering it for competitive gamers or competitive overlockers.

For the average gamer who just wants decently playable FPS, even stock (5600 CL46) is fine, but we're on an enthusiast forum, so I'm aware 99% of posters here are going to be overclocking with XMP.

 

[Tremaine]

Cheers and I'm defiantly not a cod kid looking to squeeze out every extra frame. I do like to overbuild and have headroom though as a function.

 

[Tetras]

Cheers and I'm defiantly not a cod kid looking to squeeze out every extra frame. I do like to overbuild and have headroom though as a function.

When it comes to DDR5, I wouldn't bother, since the early DDR4 is now very slow and too low in capacity, so your next upgrade to 64GB or 96GB will likely be much faster memory with better stability and lower voltage.

 

[Tremaine]

When it comes to DDR5, I wouldn't bother, since the early DDR4 is now very slow and too low in capacity, so your next upgrade to 64GB or 96GB will likely be much faster memory with better stability and lower voltage.

I see your point, basically my argument ala mobo/cpu package.

 

[Tetras]

I see your point, basically my argument ala mobo/cpu package.

I'm not sure what you mean?