New build worried about temperatures

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I am quite pleased with my new PC but temperatures are too high by the looks of it. The game sniper elite 5 is the main culprit . It raises temperatures higher than any bench mark or stress test after only 10 minutes of play. Will I need a better CPU cooler? In HW monitor what does CCD#0 refer to? This seems to be my highest temperature.
Here are my specs
be quiet! Dark Base 900 Full Tower Gaming Case
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero Wi-Fi (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Twelve Core 4.8GHz (Socket AM4) Processor
Gigabyte Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB Gaming OC 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card
be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU Cooler - 120mm
Kingston Fury Beast 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel
be quiet! Straight Power 11 850W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply
MSI Optix MAG341CQ Curved Ultra-Wide Gaming Monitor

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Might be an air flow problem might be just the way the CPU is. I knocked at least 7C off my CPU temps by changing case from a Coolermaster Stormtrooper to a Fractal Torrent using the same CPU cooler.
 
The case is more focused on silence than airflow. Try removing the side panel and see how things improves, if improves.
The 6900XT will dump a huge amount of hot air inside the case. You need to find the best way to move that air before it chokes the CPU cooler.
You could improve the cooler, which is highly recommended, specially if the GPU is running at full power. Dark Rock Pro 4 is a fantastic cooler. Just make sure you have the clearance.
 
the case I have is brilliant for noise but air flow might be an issue as it's pretty enclosed.
Drumroll said:
The case is more focused on silence than airflow. Try removing the side panel and see how things improves, if improves.
The 6900XT will dump a huge amount of hot air inside the case. You need to find the best way to move that air before it chokes the CPU cooler.
You could improve the cooler, which is highly recommended, specially if the GPU is running at full power. Dark Rock Pro 4 is a fantastic cooler. Just make sure you have the clearance.
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I have gone for the

Noctua NH-D15 chromax. I have fitted a couple of fans on top and one each side with the vents half open. I thought the be quiet! Dark Base 900 was designed for high end use despite being quiet? I did have a https://www.overclockers.co.uk/antec-1200-twelve-hundred-ultimate-gaming-case-black-ca-102-an.html which was great for cooling and price but noisy.​

 
ooch said:
the case I have is brilliant for noise but air flow might be an issue as it's pretty enclosed.

I have gone for the

Noctua NH-D15 chromax. I have fitted a couple of fans on top and one each side with the vents half open. I thought the be quiet! Dark Base 900 was designed for high end use despite being quiet? I did have a https://www.overclockers.co.uk/antec-1200-twelve-hundred-ultimate-gaming-case-black-ca-102-an.html which was great for cooling and price but noisy.​

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Great choice. Used one when I was aircooling a 12700k.
 
I agree with nlel1975, case airflow is likely the problem. heatpipe cooler reach max temp in few minutes. Taking 10 minutes is likely the result of case airflow not flowing airflow being used by coolers. When case airflow is not greater than cooler airflow cooler have to use their own heated exhaust air to make up the the difference, raising the temp of air entering cooler. Every degree warmer air entering cooler is becomes same degrees hotter that component runs.

Assuming you have stock case fan setup, do a test run with case front door open. Also try increasing case fan speed.
 
jesus and people claim intel is hot.

personally I'd get a better cooler where my pc won't be heating my house during the winter
 
arknor said:
jesus and people claim intel is hot.

personally I'd get a better cooler where my pc won't be heating my house during the winter
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Don't think Jesus claims anything about intel.

Tetras said:
To be fair, the op is cooling a £400 12 core with a 30 quid cooler :o
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£400 12 core that's rated 105w TDP with tests saying maximum 142w draw. This means OP's '30 quid cooler' should have no problem coolng '£400 12 core' CPU.

Air coolers reach max heat transfer /temps in a couple minutes. This means if temps keep climbing for 10+ minutes it's most likely not a cooler problem, more likely the airflow entering cooler has cooler heated exhaust air mixing into and raising temperature of air entering cooler .. and air cooler CPU temperature to air temperature entering them is basically a 1:1 ratio. If air temp is 5c warmer than it was 10 minutes earlier then CPU will also be 5c hotter.
 
The Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black CPU cooler with a fair few extra Be Quiet! silent wing 3 fans have sorted out the temperatures. I have just played Tropico 6 ( although not the most demanding game for CPU or GPU)for a few hours on ultra settings and the maximum temperatures were 69 degrees on the CPU. Fans stayed pretty much silent . Apparently, the AMD Ryzen 9 5900X can run pretty hot compared to intel. AMD has said temperatures could peak at 98 degrees for a short time.
 
The 3000 series, my previous 3900x would boost no issues and stay pretty cool using either a Dark Rock Pro 4 or the Noctua NH-D15S. Airflow was good, but the “magic” was using a small negative offset voltage. No need to fine tuning anything else.
5000 series, haven’t tried, but seems to be voltage curve or something like that.
 
While that is a bit warm, it's still ok as what matters is the boost clocks it's maintaining while there (which we can't see from this, we can see the maximum it has hit but not how much it's dialing that back when it hits 90c ...i.e. does it sit at an all core boost of circa 4.2-4.4ghz or is it dropping down much lower than that to keep itself under 90c), Zen 3 CPU's are to a degree at least somewhat thermally constrained, it's not the only factor but it is a major factor in deciding how hard they will boost, while it's really not quite this simple, but for the the sake of trying to keep it simple, think of 90c as being a thermal target for the CPU's boost algorithm, i.e. it will put more power into the CPU (to a point) and boost harder upto the point where 90c is reached and then it will maintain the most it can while staying within that envelope (sort of) at least it will if the thermal limit is hit before any other, which is often the case.

I suspect you could actually drop quite a lot off that temperature reading and possibly even gain performance or stay performance neutral at least by using the PBO II with the 'Curve Optimizer' in the UEFI. Do you actually know if you have PBO II (Precision Boost Overdrive II) on? ...because if you do and you haven't tweaked it (at least set a negative value in the curve optimizer, maybe try -10 initially) with the Curve Optimizer then I'm not surprised it's bouncing itself off the 90c limit given you actually do have quite a small cooler on it, a cooler than 'can' still get the job done but will struggle with PBO in use, especially in an airflow constrained case, for it to really do the job with a 5900X you would need a good amount of fresh air circulating as it doesn't have a whole lot of thermal capacity really, not for dealing with a 5900X, forget the TDP numbers for a moment, you are using a cooler meant really for a 5600X or a 12400 with a 12 core twin CCX CPU here so it's trying to get rid of a lot heat under load and I suspect your case isn't helping with that as much as it could.

It has been proven that closed off 'silent' cases aren't actually the best way to build a really quiet system unless it's coil whine you are trying to get rid of, if it's just minimising fan noise running a more open high airflow focussed system with lower fan speeds is the more efficient approach, better cooling and lower noise ...and you have the option to increase it whenever you want/need to.

Also, I feel a need to say to the person who mentioned heating their house with the PC ...you do understand that (lets forget efficiency reductions due to heat build-up and thermal runaway scenarios for a moment) with a better cooler you are still dealing with the same amount of waste heat, it's just removing it more quickly, so the cooler itself may feel 'cooler' to the touch and show better temperatures for the CPU and also within the case if the case cooling can evacuate the waste heat well enough, but it's the same waste heat and it still ends up in your room, so that will be heat neutral as far as heating your house goes (not quite strictly true, due to power efficiency related to Thermal Design Power but that's a bit much for this)
 
For my 5800X I tweaked the PPT, TDC and EDC limits in the BIOS. Slightly under the book figures. It cut a ton of heat and had negligle CPU impact. I think if I remember rightly in Cinebench it dropped something like 10ºC off peak temps. :) Have you also setup the Asus fan software and linked it to the CPU temp? I found that useful, so when just casual browsing web etc, case fans are quiet and CPU is quiet. When gaming and the heat goes up the case fans increase as well. I have a spin down time as well so that they don't ramp up and down constantly. I find it better than running higher RPM all the time unnecessarily or vice versa, being too slow for when you come to game.
 
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