The z50ii is one I have been considering and the list is getting smaller
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Definitely a contender , I’m not familiar with Fuji cameras but will look at them tomorrow, lack of viewfinder could be a no no though
X100VI is an excellent camera and over your budget. In my experience not the easiest camera to record video with. It would still always be my top travel camera.
A used X100V is also good for photos.
Sample photos I snapped walking round London on my X100V.
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Well after weeks of research I have more or less decided to get a Nikon Z50ii , I’ve had to stop myself looking at higher end gear and be sensible as I think this will do everything we want and it can be bought well under our budget limit which leaves some cash for any accessories we want
I will probably get it with the 16-50 kit lens and go from there
It’s not full frame which I’d have liked but then I’d be spending at least double what the z50ii costs
Thanks for all the suggestions
I will probably get it with the 16-50 kit lens and go from there
It’s not full frame which I’d have liked but then I’d be spending at least double what the z50ii costs
Thanks for all the suggestions
Z50ii is a good camera, Cotswold are doing it new for £619, a fair saving over the cheapest I can find in the UK being £849.
I'd be tempted to get a fast prime over the kit lens, something like the Nikon NIKKOR Z DX 24mm f/1.7 Lens (36mm equiv), but I do like primes.
I have my eye on the Viltrox 35 1.7 but I will hold off for now and see how it goes , the kit lens bundle isn’t much more than the body so it’s worth it and tbh it sounds like a half decent lens (for a kit lens)
I had the same situation and trying to come reasoning that I would be happy with images on the crop sensor or spending double to go for a full frame mirrorless camera. Size and weight of everything was a key consideration as well as I am now often chasing after a 3 year old with the camera swinging about and sometimes behaving like wrecking ball to the little one.
I bought the two lens kit although it arrived as camera and lenses separately boxed rather than as a kit box (directly from
Nikon!) I think the most disappointing things out of the box for me was not getting a lens pouch for either lens and no lens hood was included either. Both the Nikon official hood and the 3rd party hood that I picked and bought (from JJC) for the 16-50mm are quite tiny, it probably only works as extra protector the lens. The strap is quite basic as well and not as thick or comfortable as the one on the D800. The strap is the next thing I want to change out. I want to pick out an Amazon equivalent of the Peak Design strap but I also
do not want the camera on the floor!
You might find it easier transferring to the EVF having had a break from the DSLR. I struggled as it is not the same as what you actually see with your eye. It does match up to what the camera is going to take in the picture with the brightness and exposure unless you are out of the camera range in which case it is too bright in a dark situation. In terms of the frame it seems to be exactly what you are going to take in the photo where as the D800 viewfinder had an ever so slightly smaller/cropped view compared to the photo. The viewfinder was pretty essentially to me, looking at the screen to take the photo is pretty alien. I thought I would use the flip out screens tilt a lot as it used to be very useful on my old coolpix but I struggle with the angles and direction on this camera. Certainly I am not used t shooting with the screen, live view on the D800 was very slow and clunky and the screen was quite unclear with poor colours.
I don’t know if it was just my D800 having had it second hand but the shutter speed and apature dials are swapped around from to back on the Z50ii and took some practice with.
RAW file size is much smaller. He z50 pictures are about 15.5MB compared to
The D800e’s being around 73MB when it compressed.
So with the crop sensor and the kit lens you lose some low light performance but with the processing on the camera much higher ISO numbers give a usable image compared to
The D800e. I still get scared going above ISO800 as Instil think of that as being a fast grainy film!
The kit lens has been fine 16-50mm. It extends quite a bit physically which not being used to zooms took I had to be aware of and it means that it is not a very compact shooting setup.
After 10 months of ownership and now being on holiday I have got some dust on the sensor. The opening/mount on the camera is quite a bit larger than the F mount and more susceptible to it I think. I should have bought an airduster with me. I don’t think there is a sensor clean function on this camera.
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I’ll probably get an air duster and a lens cloth but I won’t need much more than that at the moment, I can live without a lens pouch for the kit lens as it’s only £25 quid or so extra for it in the bundle , I’ll probably stick it in a double zip lock sandwich bag if I take it off heh
May also look at a cheap 3rd party flash at some point
I think I’ve had enough time away from alt’s that I’ll be starting fresh again so nothing will feel out of place , I’ll use the evf mostly , it’s one of the reasons I decided against some cameras because of the lack of a viewfinder
Will probably need a backpack too but I don’t one one specifically for photography , something like a daily backpack that has enough room for raincoats, small umbrella’s , water bottles , small items we may buy when out and about ,etc but with maybe a small padded area I can put the camera with lens attached , failing that it may be a case of buying a normal backpack and a very small padded bag that will fit inside but that would mean rummaging through everything each time I want to use the camera
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Cropped sensor is fine, does it give you DOF like FF? No….does it do low light like FF? No…does it have the same DR…noooo but it depends on the sensor too
But will you notice? Especially if you don’t do side by side comparisons? No…..
For personal stuff, the moment is more important than absolute IQ. I use my Fuji now 99% for personal stuff, especially since I got the XT5 and X100VI.
If I really want balls to the wall IQ then I could use the Sony but I don’t need that for street photography for holiday pics. (I doubt you can tell which camera I used anyway if I didn’t tell you)
But will you notice? Especially if you don’t do side by side comparisons? No…..
For personal stuff, the moment is more important than absolute IQ. I use my Fuji now 99% for personal stuff, especially since I got the XT5 and X100VI.
If I really want balls to the wall IQ then I could use the Sony but I don’t need that for street photography for holiday pics. (I doubt you can tell which camera I used anyway if I didn’t tell you)
the way I see it is that my first SLR was a cropped sensor , eos 40d or something ( I forget now what it was) and the image quality was good , not as good as my 5d classic but still nice , the 5d was only 12mp but it produced some very nice looking photos , infact I was toying with buying one again and some 2nd hand lenses but unfortunately the 5d doesn’t have all the modern features which I want , still a very capable camera though
And like you say , if I was to show to images of each to somebody they would have no idea which came from which camera , infact I’d only know because I took the shots
Something like the Vanguard Alta Rise 48 might be worth looking at? It's not too expensive and you can access your camera from the side without having to unzip the whole thing and also have a separate top section, all reconfigurable. Expandable outside pouch for water and the balance tripod carrying system could be used for an unbrella instead.
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finally had delivery of the z50ii and todayhad some time to play around with it , I haven’t quite got the grasp of the controls yet but figuring it out
I have to say I am quite impressed, the image quality is very good and that is using just the kit lens , I took a few shots of the missus at Windermere today with one as the sun started going down , sun behind her with bright reflections on the water and exposed to the right , got home and downloaded onto my iPad , using just the basic iPad editing i did an auto edit then brought out the shadows and the image looks very good and clean , not the mush that tends to happen with our phones
Will get Lightroom if it’s on offer or may hold out for DXO lab offers
I had a play with the on camera flash also, seems to do a decent job outside (at close’ish’ range ) without overly exposing the subject
The only downsides so far are the controls feel a bit fiddly and will take some getting used to and it seems to be that all the newer gizmos using power reduce battery life compared to what I’m used to with my other past SLR’s
Oh and the neck strap is very uncomfortable, had to tuck it under my jacket collar as it was scratching my neck
All in all a good little camera that is capable of producing images with excellent image quality ,even the el cheapo kit lens is pretty sharp , not a fast lens by any means but good enough for a day out wandering
Oh and loving the evf, just having a viewfinder again is good but having a live histogram and a sprit level is a bonus
I have to say I am quite impressed, the image quality is very good and that is using just the kit lens , I took a few shots of the missus at Windermere today with one as the sun started going down , sun behind her with bright reflections on the water and exposed to the right , got home and downloaded onto my iPad , using just the basic iPad editing i did an auto edit then brought out the shadows and the image looks very good and clean , not the mush that tends to happen with our phones
Will get Lightroom if it’s on offer or may hold out for DXO lab offers
I had a play with the on camera flash also, seems to do a decent job outside (at close’ish’ range ) without overly exposing the subject
The only downsides so far are the controls feel a bit fiddly and will take some getting used to and it seems to be that all the newer gizmos using power reduce battery life compared to what I’m used to with my other past SLR’s
Oh and the neck strap is very uncomfortable, had to tuck it under my jacket collar as it was scratching my neck
All in all a good little camera that is capable of producing images with excellent image quality ,even the el cheapo kit lens is pretty sharp , not a fast lens by any means but good enough for a day out wandering
Oh and loving the evf, just having a viewfinder again is good but having a live histogram and a sprit level is a bonus
You can usually get a 12 month sub for £60 when on offer. Keep an eye on this during prime day next week.
Thinking about the release date of the Z50ii, will the older versions of Lightroom support it without having to do a separate DNG convert in Camera RAW?
An interesting article here regarding LR and the Z50ii files. I ended up just getting the LR subscription so I've always got the latest after my older versions couldn't keep up with the newer cameras.
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An interesting article here regarding LR and the Z50ii files. I ended up just getting the LR subscription so I've always got the latest after my older versions couldn't keep up with the newer cameras.
Nikon Z50 II NEF Not Opening in Lightroom or Photos: Fix
Z50 II NEF files won't open? It's usually an outdated app or High efficiency RAW compression. Version numbers, a test NEF, and fixes for photos already shot.
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