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New CPU and motherboard bundle!

Legoman776

Legoman776

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Hi all

I am a video editor and am encoding .ts to various file formats all day in Handbrake and similar, and currently using an Intel Core i7 5820K 3.30ghz CPU.

I want a new CPU which can make my video encoding much much faster (I realise I’ll need to get a new motherboard as I have Socket 2011 LGA). Money not really an object but best value for maximum benefit is of course ideal, with water cooling for maximum efficiency.

All suggestions welcome for a new bundle please. I guess up to around £1500 all-in.

Thanks
LM
 
Are you willing to use GPU encoding? If so the best use of your money is a suitable GPU in what you have and save a fortune. If not, overclock what you have for some reasonable gains for free. Water cooling isn’t really significantly more efficient, you pay a premium for minimal gains. It could be argued that it’s more about aesthetics and has been for many years, nothing wrong with that, but if you want efficiency/value, air is cheaper and unlike coolers of old, relatively quiet/regularly beats the smaller AIO’s.

If you want to buy new, Quicksync deserves consideration *if* you’ll use it, you can generally do an encode in 10% of the time it’ll take in software (CPU), similar story with GPU encoding. If GLU/iGPU isn’t for you, throw as many cores at it as you can and in raw CPU performance terms you get better £/performance ratio on Ryzen at present, but the forthcoming Ryzen 4000 series is likely the end of the line for The AM4 socket, and it’s replacement isn’t due for a good while yet.
 
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU-2019/2245 would suggest a Ryzen 3950x or 3900x

Then just get a MSI X570 tomahawk and some decent 3600 RAM and you'll be good to go.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,069.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
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eeek said:
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU-2019/2245 would suggest a Ryzen 3950x or 3900x

Then just get a MSI X570 tomahawk and some decent 3600 RAM and you'll be good to go.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,069.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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Thanks for the info.

This looks like a good bundle. What would the gains be in terms of encoding speed (CPU) do you think?

Also, I currently have 32GB DDR4 RAM - can I use this with the new bundle and make it 48GB RAM overall?

Thanks,

LM.
 
Avalon said:
Are you willing to use GPU encoding? If so the best use of your money is a suitable GPU in what you have and save a fortune. If not, overclock what you have for some reasonable gains for free. Water cooling isn’t really significantly more efficient, you pay a premium for minimal gains. It could be argued that it’s more about aesthetics and has been for many years, nothing wrong with that, but if you want efficiency/value, air is cheaper and unlike coolers of old, relatively quiet/regularly beats the smaller AIO’s.

If you want to buy new, Quicksync deserves consideration *if* you’ll use it, you can generally do an encode in 10% of the time it’ll take in software (CPU), similar story with GPU encoding. If GLU/iGPU isn’t for you, throw as many cores at it as you can and in raw CPU performance terms you get better £/performance ratio on Ryzen at present, but the forthcoming Ryzen 4000 series is likely the end of the line for The AM4 socket, and it’s replacement isn’t due for a good while yet.
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Thank you for your help. I steer away from GPU as what this makes up for in time, it loses in quality; so I need to push CPU as much as possible. Thanks. LM.
 
Legoman776 said:
Thanks for the info.

This looks like a good bundle. What would the gains be in terms of encoding speed (CPU) do you think?

Also, I currently have 32GB DDR4 RAM - can I use this with the new bundle and make it 48GB RAM overall?

Thanks,

LM.
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Looking at the chart I linked to the i7-4790 can do 103 frames a second, the 3950x 260 frames a second so I suspect at least twice as fast if not more than that.

With ryzen the speed of the ram is reflected in the performance of the processor, you won't get quite as much ummph if your old ram is slower as everything will run at the rate of the slowest ram.
 
Legoman776 said:
Thank you for your help. I steer away from GPU as what this makes up for in time, it loses in quality; so I need to push CPU as much as possible. Thanks. LM.
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I was about to make the this point, but you are very aware already. I made my build with Video Editing and Encoding as a priority, my own testing of NVenc on a 2080S and QuickSync on an i71065G7 is that they are good encoders at very high bitrates for h264, but when you start to constrain them, you start to notice the artefacts. For me GPU no go, CPU all the way.

@eeek's recommendation is a good one, without going HEDT the 3950X is the best machine you can use for encoding, not to mention it's excellent at everything else too. Can't go wrong.
 
eeek said:
Looking at the chart I linked to the i7-4790 can do 103 frames a second, the 3950x 260 frames a second so I suspect at least twice as fast if not more than that.

With ryzen the speed of the ram is reflected in the performance of the processor, you won't get quite as much ummph if your old ram is slower as everything will run at the rate of the slowest ram.
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I actually just noticed I put 16gb of ram in the basket not 32gb try this instead

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,109.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)​
​
 
eeek said:
I actually just noticed I put 16gb of ram in the basket not 32gb try this instead

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,109.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)
​
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This looks great, thank you.

One of the reviews for the processor says don't even try to air cool this thing though, and use watercooling - is this right? Is there a watercooler and/or AIO you could add to the bundle?

Cheers,
LM.
 
Legoman776 said:
This looks great, thank you.

One of the reviews for the processor says don't even try to air cool this thing though, and use watercooling - is this right? Is there a watercooler and/or AIO you could add to the bundle?

Cheers,
LM.
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A half decent air cooler and case is all you need.
 
No need for water/AIO at all, a large heatsink, the larger the better for acoustics, will do just fine. I'd take a Noctua D15 over any watercooling if you get a case that can fit, it's a beast.
 
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