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New CPU installed, running too hot ?

I'm stuck trying to install this peerless assassin cooler.

I've removed my hyper 212 and the backplate it came with, but I believe I need to original backplate now to install this new cooler, which I can't find anywhere.

I've had a look on amazon and have seen some "amd 4 backplates" on there, are these all universal fit or are they mainboard specific?
 
They're not motherboard specific
Bit confusing looking on amazon must admit
Sadly no am4 on ocuk
Might be able to narrow it down on amazon
By searching factory, default am4 backplate
Or similar wording
I have some somewhere
But chances of finding them in a room full
Of computer stuff are slim
Or you could have one

Isn't the hyper 212 one going to fit
The peerless assassin?
 
@throwaway4372
Very good advice mate
I never throw anything away
But I also never store stuff in the sensible place :cry:
Used to be I could find anything I wanted
Even though its like steptoe and sons in here
I just knew where everything was
Old age and too many medications now mean I
Can barely find the door into the pc room nowadays :cry:

@Medic-one
Do you qualify for MM?
Can never remember how it works for long time members
As think it never used to be you needed
1,000 posts or whatever the requirements
Are nowadays
Bound to be someone who has one
Who actually knows where they stored it
Unlike me
 
x3d chips run hot cause the cache layer stops the heat dissipating like a traditioanl cpu, my 7800x3d idles around 40-45c and under full load gets to 80-88 in r23 depending if its summer or not :)
 
Before the new install I had :

- Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE
- AMD RYZEN 7 3700X EIGHT CORE 4.4GHZ
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU cooler.
- Gigabyte GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER WINDFORCE OC

And this is what it looked like temp wise in the bios :

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I've kept the mainboard, but replaced the CPU, GPU and the memory and bought :

- AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz
- Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600 MHz DDR4
- Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express

The GPU is quite a beast in size and even sits a little bit over the mainboard fan :

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And it then looked like this :

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I then installed the latest motherboard AMD chipset drivers which made the system temp come down, but CPU temp whilst playing a game still came up to about 90° C.

3.jpg



As advised here I then replaced the 'Cooler Master Hyper 212' with the 'Peerless Assassin 120 se argb' and it now looks like this at the moment :


4.jpg



Doing stuff around windows CPU is sitting around 38 - 45° C and I just briefly ran that same game again (with Coretemp running on screen) and temps were sitting around 55 - 65° C, so that's definitely an improvement from before.


It did notice in the bios the 'CPU frequency' is sitting a bit lower with new CPU compared to the previous one but not sure if that's something I should worry about too much ?

Looking at the comments in here I guess these temps are normal/ok for this CPU, or should I still look at lowering them with this 'Curve Optimizer' app ?
 
Improving the case cooling would probably help. I added an RTX3080 to a system and under load it was cooking the system causing it to crash/shutdown. Adding another 4 high flow case fans has brought the temps down to more reasonable levels. Now the RTX3080 is just loud.
 
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The bios base speed for the 2 cpus
Is correct
Ones 3.4ghz ones 3.6ghz
Boost speed is only 100mhz difference
Clock speed isn't everything though
Since ones a newer architecture speed can be lower/same
But ipc better
Plus x3d main advantage is in games with the cache

If you play the same game
For same length of time that hit 90c
And you're getting 65c
That's a huge difference
And I wouldn't bother with curve optimiser
 
jigger said:
Improving the case cooling would probably help. I added an RTX3080 to a system and under load it was cooking the system causing it to crash/shutdown. Adding another 4 high flow case fans has brought the temps down to more reasonable levels. Now the RTX3080 is just loud.
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Don't think there's room for any more fans as it's already got 2 on the top, 1 on the front, 1 in the side window, one rear one, and one at the bottom...

cooling01.jpg
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
The bios base speed for the 2 cpus
Is correct
Ones 3.4ghz ones 3.6ghz
Boost speed is only 100mhz difference
Clock speed isn't everything though
Since ones a newer architecture speed can be lower/same
But ipc better
Plus x3d main advantage is in games with the cache

If you play the same game
For same length of time that hit 90c
And you're getting 65c
That's a huge difference
And I wouldn't bother with curve optimiser
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Once it was running fine for few weeks , I did curve optimizer -30 all cores in the bios and not had any issues for months and nice bonus further decreasing temp and power usage
 
uscool said:
Once it was running fine for few weeks , I did curve optimizer -30 all cores in the bios and not had any issues for months and nice bonus further decreasing temp and power usage
Click to expand...
If its perfectly stable
Then yeah won't hurt to do it
Couldn't get it perfectly stable on my 5950x
Was fine under heavy load
But randomly crashed doing light stuff
So for me personally it was too time consuming
 
Medic-one said:
Before the new install I had :

- Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE
- AMD RYZEN 7 3700X EIGHT CORE 4.4GHZ
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU cooler.
- Gigabyte GEFORCE RTX 2070 SUPER WINDFORCE OC

And this is what it looked like temp wise in the bios :

1.jpg



I've kept the mainboard, but replaced the CPU, GPU and the memory and bought :

- AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Cache Eight Core 4.5GHz
- Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600 MHz DDR4
- Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XT Pulse 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express

The GPU is quite a beast in size and even sits a little bit over the mainboard fan :

20230619-105027.jpg



And it then looked like this :

2.jpg




I then installed the latest motherboard AMD chipset drivers which made the system temp come down, but CPU temp whilst playing a game still came up to about 90° C.

3.jpg



As advised here I then replaced the 'Cooler Master Hyper 212' with the 'Peerless Assassin 120 se argb' and it now looks like this at the moment :


4.jpg



Doing stuff around windows CPU is sitting around 38 - 45° C and I just briefly ran that same game again (with Coretemp running on screen) and temps were sitting around 55 - 65° C, so that's definitely an improvement from before.


It did notice in the bios the 'CPU frequency' is sitting a bit lower with new CPU compared to the previous one but not sure if that's something I should worry about too much ?

Looking at the comments in here I guess these temps are normal/ok for this CPU, or should I still look at lowering them with this 'Curve Optimizer' app ?
Click to expand...

Them temps look really good, I would just leave it for awhile make sure it's stable maybe after good few weeks

Further down you could start playing with curve optimizer and get further bonus of lowering temp and power
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
If its perfectly stable
Then yeah won't hurt to do it
Couldn't get it perfectly stable on my 5950x
Was fine under heavy load
But randomly crashed doing light stuff
So for me personally it was too time consuming
Click to expand...

I had 5900x same issue with curve optimizer was more time consuming and had to adjust each core individually till stable

With x3d they seem more forgiving
 
uscool said:
I had 5900x same issue with curve optimizer was more time consuming and had to adjust each core individually till stable

With x3d they seem more forgiving
Click to expand...
Yeah it's quite possible x3d may be easier to do
In the end I just manually adjusted ppt/edc/tdc
Quick overclock to 4.5ghz all core
And 5.050ghz single core
There's probably a bit left in the all core
But the extra heat isn't worth another 100--200mhz to me

His temps look very good so far
So yeah probably I would leave curve optimiser for now
And see how the new cooler performs
Once he's pushed it for a while
 
Everyone's case and configuration and home environment are different, you have chosen a push/pull in that case, there are many different methods to getting more cold air intake

But as others have said, that CPU and GPU won't help as they run hotter than your previous ones.
 
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