New CPU options, recommendations?

[Moments420]

So i'm currently undecided about what to do with regards to a new CPU/mobo/ram build. Been out of the loop regarding PC hardware for a while so I don't really know what the general field looks like currently. From what I've gathered so far my options are:-

1) Wait for black Friday to pick up a 2700x bundle.
2) Wait for a 9900k and pay the premium to build a system around that.

3) Go with option 1 and drop in a 3700/3800x in next year.

I mainly game and will use the system for REVIT/AUTOCAD and video rendering (for client demos).

What would you guys recommend/do yourselves?

 

[SiDeards73]

So i'm currently undecided about what to do with regards to a new CPU/mobo/ram build. Been out of the loop regarding PC hardware for a while so I don't really know what the general field looks like currently. From what I've gathered so far my options are:-

1) Wait for black Friday to pick up a 2700x bundle.
2) Wait for a 9900k and pay the premium to build a system around that.

3) Go with option 1 and drop in a 3700/3800x in next year.

I mainly game and will use the system for REVIT/AUTOCAD and video rendering (for client demos).

What would you guys recommend/do yourselves?

Gaming will automatically steer you towards Intel, however, what types of games? what GPU and monitor do you have?

Productivity wise you want at minimum a 6 core CPU now, so your looking at 8600 / 8700 / 8086k from Intel, or a 2600 / 2700X from AMD.

Being as you mentioned waiting for Black Friday for a bundle, this says to me you are budget conscious, what is your overall budget?

Many people will tell you the 9900k will be the best chip as it will have zero comprises, however this is still an unknown factor, yes it will probably be the go to desktop chip for people who a) game and b) do productivity work, but we do not know the price of this chip yet, and given the current state of Intel's 14nm product stack, we all expect this chip to be somewhat overpriced at release, so if you are infact budget conscious, this may rule this option out for you.

If you are driving a 1080ti on a 1080p 144hz+ Screen and play competitive FPS games, then the 8700k or 8086k will be the CPU of choice for you right this minute.

If you are less concerned with maximising FPS, and maybe play 1440p or higher then the 2700X is probably going to give you more bang for your buck.

 

[Moments420]

Gaming will automatically steer you towards Intel, however, what types of games? what GPU and monitor do you have?

Productivity wise you want at minimum a 6 core CPU now, so your looking at 8600 / 8700 / 8086k from Intel, or a 2600 / 2700X from AMD.

Being as you mentioned waiting for Black Friday for a bundle, this says to me you are budget conscious, what is your overall budget?

Many people will tell you the 9900k will be the best chip as it will have zero comprises, however this is still an unknown factor, yes it will probably be the go to desktop chip for people who a) game and b) do productivity work, but we do not know the price of this chip yet, and given the current state of Intel's 14nm product stack, we all expect this chip to be somewhat overpriced at release, so if you are infact budget conscious, this may rule this option out for you.

If you are driving a 1080ti on a 1080p 144hz+ Screen and play competitive FPS games, then the 8700k or 8086k will be the CPU of choice for you right this minute.

If you are less concerned with maximising FPS, and maybe play 1440p or higher then the 2700X is probably going to give you more bang for your buck.

Thanks,

- The Screens i have are 4k/60 for work and 1440p/144hz for gaming. Just picked up a 1080ti.
- Games i play are mostly your open world explorers and strategy games, Far Cry, Assassins Creed, CIV6 ......

Productivity is more important than the gaming if i was being totally truthful . But because it's my personal decision rather than being on the company expenses, I'd like it to come in at or around £1000 for a CPU+Cooler/MOBO/32GB RAM (is this even realistic these days?). I'm guessing from what you said at the end there's no real advantage above 1080p for Intel?

 

[SiDeards73]

Thanks,

- The Screens i have are 4k/60 for work and 1440p/144hz for gaming. Just picked up a 1080ti.
- Games i play are mostly your open world explorers and strategy games, Far Cry, Assassins Creed, CIV6 ......

Productivity is more important than the gaming if i was being totally truthful . But because it's my personal decision rather than being on the company expenses, I'd like it to come in at or around £1000 for a CPU+Cooler/MOBO/32GB RAM (is this even realistic these days?). I'm guessing from what you said at the end there's no real advantage above 1080p for Intel?

The higher the res you go the more GPU bound you become, for your budget id probably go with a 2700X, i am expecting the 9900K to be £500+ thats half your budget eaten straight away, which does not leave much wiggle room for the ram, motherboard and cooler. Ram is horrendously expensive right now, 32GB is not cheap...

 

[EsaT]

I'd like it to come in at or around £1000 for a CPU+Cooler/MOBO/32GB RAM (is this even realistic these days?).

9900k will likely be £500+ by itself.
And availability might be very low for long time with Intel's shortage of 14nm production capacity...
Intel's 10nm node is SNAFU, or possibly even FUBAR for its original goals, forcing manufacturing everything on 14nm.
And they even canceled equipping one freshly built factory with 14nm equipment year+ ago, when they had plenty of capacity at the time and wanted to go straight for 10nm in it.
No wonder CEO "got boot to his butt"...

Also thanks to DRAM maker cartel, memory prices are many times over what they were couple years ago.
So you've pretty much used budget after that.

And it's not like any cheaper motherboard would be good for 9900k.
With advertised clocks (or at least when achieving those) honest all core/thread max load power draw is going to be closer to 200W and 100W.
8700k can go lot above 100W if BIOS/motherboard doesn't step on brakes.
Certainly would want very high end VRM motherboard for 9900k.

Also keeping it cooled under full load might be "slightly" more demanding.
While for AMDs this would certainly do nicely:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/scythe-scmg-5100-mugen-5-cpu-cooler-hs-046-sy.html
And this would have very good modern design VRM for 2700X and Zen2 CPUs:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-6c1-as.html
(unlike B450-F Strix which has garbage level VRM)

 

[Moments420]

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/scythe-scmg-5100-mugen-5-cpu-cooler-hs-046-sy.html
And this would have very good modern design VRM for 2700X and Zen2 CPUs:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-6c1-as.html
(unlike B450-F Strix which has garbage level VRM)

So i need to keep board quality in mind too, gotcha.

After seeing RTX card prices i'm willing to believe you both on the predicted Intel price. I guess i'll just bite the bullet on in Nov. and get an AMD system.

Thanks.