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New CPU

Rusko187

Rusko187

Rusko187

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I'm in the market for a new CPU and have had my eyes on the i7 8700k, is there likely to be another generation of intel processors coming out imminently? I'm looking to order end of the month.

I'll be using the build for streaming, editing and gaming. Alternatively are there any other suggestions recommended?
 
All we know is 8 core Intel is coming, if its anything like the 8700K it will be a good chip albeit hot so i doubt it will clock anywhere nearly as high.

If your after a rig to stream, edit and gaming, then you should also consider the new AMD 2700X with an X470 motherboard and some decent ram, that will handily do all of the above as well plus you can drop in 7nm Zen2 when it arrives hopefully next year.

As you have a 1060 you probably arent playing ultra high FPS games either, imho the Ryzen would probably be the smarter choice.

If you was driving a 1080ti and gaming on a 1080p 144hz+ monitor then the 8700k would be the obvious choice.

But like i say, given your workload, the 8 core 2700X will be more than sufficient, you can actually do all 3 of those things at once on the Ryzens, Game, Stream and Edit, i think AdoredTV has a video showing that off on Gen1 Ryzen.
 
SiDeards73 said:
All we know is 8 core Intel is coming, if its anything like the 8700K it will be a good chip albeit hot so i doubt it will clock anywhere nearly as high.

If your after a rig to stream, edit and gaming, then you should also consider the new AMD 2700X with an X470 motherboard and some decent ram, that will handily do all of the above as well plus you can drop in 7nm Zen2 when it arrives hopefully next year.

As you have a 1060 you probably arent playing ultra high FPS games either, imho the Ryzen would probably be the smarter choice.

If you was driving a 1080ti and gaming on a 1080p 144hz+ monitor then the 8700k would be the obvious choice.

But like i say, given your workload, the 8 core 2700X will be more than sufficient, you can actually do all 3 of those things at once on the Ryzens, Game, Stream and Edit, i think AdoredTV has a video showing that off on Gen1 Ryzen.
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Ah sorry signature is my gaming laptop, my old desktop has a GTX 1080... just that I'm in the market for new motherboard and processor. Monitor wise I'm running Ultra Wide 1080p at plus 144mhz.

I will admit I've always had intel so never considered AMD after a friend years back had one with a lot of issues, what's the overall perception of AMD now?
 
I can only comment on the 8700. Got one just over two weeks ago, and it clocks well for someone who doesn't bother normally. 4.9 on all cores was really easy, but it was touching 80 on two cores, it's now running happily at 4.8 sub 75 temps under prime 95.

The 2700x I almost bought instead of the 8700, but o/c had no matx boards ready to drop the chip in.
 
Rusko187 said:
Ah sorry signature is my gaming laptop, my old desktop has a GTX 1080... just that I'm in the market for new motherboard and processor. Monitor wise I'm running Ultra Wide 1080p at plus 144mhz.

I will admit I've always had intel so never considered AMD after a friend years back had one with a lot of issues, what's the overall perception of AMD now?
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AMD CPUs are now regarded in the same league as Intel. GPUs not so much.
 
Servo said:
I can only comment on the 8700. Got one just over two weeks ago, and it clocks well for someone who doesn't bother normally. 4.9 on all cores was really easy, but it was touching 80 on two cores, it's now running happily at 4.8 sub 75 temps under prime 95.

The 2700x I almost bought instead of the 8700, but o/c had no matx boards ready to drop the chip in.
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Ahh see I need an mATX board. Worth considering though.
 
I'm in pretty much the same boat - been thinking about upgrading and have been looking at the 8700k but with the recent 2700x, I'm unsure.

As far as I understand, the 8700k is slightly better for present games, but could start to fall away from the 2700x in a few years if multithreaded games/programs become more estabilished.

2700x AM4 socket is apparently being supported to 2020, so a cpu in 2 yrs should (in theory) be a drop in swap, but the 8700k means a full new mobo change (again) to upgrade next time. (I'm unsure if the proposed 8 core Coffee Lake-S chip will work with the present mobos???)

2700x is brand new, so not at much long-term OC reliability data, but I think I've read issues with memory compability which means almost having to buy specific modules.

2700x comes with an ok cooler, so you can instantly save ~£60 by using that, if air-cooling is ok.

New Spectre exploits have been discovered, but I don't know if that means the 8700k will get nerfed more (and fall behind 2700x) or not?

There's a LOT of reasons to consider AMD this time, but I've been so impressed with my present 2500k (and past Intel chips) that I must admit I probably favour that camp... so, I'm left scratching my head...
 
Best bet is to have a look around the internet, if you rely on advice from people here you are going to get a lot of people saying *buy the 8700K AMD is inferior* and then others like myself will say *If your editing, streaming, gaming, buy the AMD Chips, Intel is overpriced and not as good at all 3*

Truth is, its not our money we are spending, its yours, so you need to be fully happy with what your spending your cash on. Go and check out Benchmarks for your favourite games with your GPU and the AMD and Intel CPU's, also a lot of the productivity stuff is benchmarked now as well, so check those out too and base your decision on that.

If you want my personal biased decision, buy the AMD chip, its a longer living socket, 7nm Zen is due next year and *Should* take the fight to intel and potentially bypass them as they will still be stuck on the current node potentially as there has been a lot of delays on their fab moving forward.

The difference in fps between AMD and Intel is now very marginal in a lot of cases, 5-10%, at 144hz thats potentially 14fps tops! As someone who owns a 1440p 144hz monitor, and uses an AMD CPU, i have nothing but praise for the chips.

Like i say, have a look around, what editing software and streaming stuff do you use? people here are probably using the same on both Intel and AMD rigs, get some opinions but yeah check out reviews, dont just take a few peoples words for it :)
 
The 8700k is currently the fastest CPU for a pure gaming based setup at 1080p 144hz+, however AMD is back in the game with their 2600x/2700x CPU’s.
The fact is the core wars has already begun and it’s only accelerating with Intel’s upcoming 8 core CPU, which might even push AMD to unleash an 2800x CPU.
Next year is going to be even more explosive with AMD's 7nm vs Intel’s 10nm CPU on the horizon.

@DereksDontRun
We sure did pick the right CPU back 6-7 years ago and that’s why we have a problem now :D
 
Rusko187 said:
Ahh see I need an mATX board. Worth considering though.
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I thought like you once... then I realised that nobody makes premium mATX boards for Ryzen, and the Intel options are kind of compromising on VRM quality. There's no love for smaller builds this year, I've given up and will buy standard ATX :/
 
Thank you for the feedback all, I've looked around in addition to the comments and I'm going to go towards the i7 8700k.
 
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