New D-Tek GFX Uni-Sink for 8800gtx

chaparral · 24 May 2007 at 23:36

Mekrel said:
Yet my list above was in terms of looks, I'm sure the DTEK block will out perform the EK block too.

The Dtek gpu block is meant to give about the same performance as a MCW60 waterblock on a 8800gtx...(about 4c to 6c lower temps then an EK fullcover waterblock) but you need to have a fan blowing over the heatsinks....

chaparral · 25 May 2007 at 12:34

chaparral said:
Yes,,,,,When the postman gets around to delivering it

(it meant to been posted by RMSD (nextday),,But the seller went and posted it by city link ..which can take weeks if they don't loose it)
am in channel islands and we don't have city link over here..so it can take ages when something does get posted by city link..

I just got an e-mail from the seller of my EK waterblock this morning saying "City link seem to have lost the parcel" :mad:

kkthxbye · 25 May 2007 at 12:37

what a beast of a block, how much is that going to be?

Mekrel · 25 May 2007 at 13:14

What the hell?

Have you guys seen the pressure drop on the D-TeK block? 6PSIG @ 2GPM. :eek:

WJA96 · 25 May 2007 at 14:26

kkthxbye said:
what a beast of a block, how much is that going to be?

Going by US pricing ($25) it'll be £12 from some sources or £25 from others :rolleyes:

WJA96 · 25 May 2007 at 14:27

chaparral said:
The Dtek gpu block is meant to give about the same performance as a MCW60 waterblock on a 8800gtx...(about 4c to 6c lower temps then an EK fullcover waterblock) but you need to have a fan blowing over the heatsinks....

Hmmmm - I do water-cooling to reduce the number of fans, I think EK will be retaining my loyalty for a short time yet.

drunkenmaster · 25 May 2007 at 16:02

you guys seem to be missing the main point. full cover blocks are essentially a complete pain in the ass and introduce a massive cost to your system as most full cover blocks aren't transferable to new graphics cards AND provide worse cooling than a gpu only block. you can clock further/get lower temps with a single gpu only block like the fusion or swiftech. the difference is the swiftech/fusion will only need(maybe not need) a new hold down to fit to a new graphics card so its £25 for a block and thats it. not £70 for every new card you buy. this is a $25 memory/mosfet cooler to provide enough surface area for either no direct airflow or silent air cooling as once you remove stock cooler mosfets and stuff get very little cooling. we've yet to really see memory that needs specific cooling to be honest.

so you buy a fairly longterm block that will work on basically any card from the last 3-4 years and probo most cards in the next couple years for £25 and buy a £12 for each card to cool the rest. rather than dump £70 on every new graphics card you buy. its econimcal and overclocks better.

what i don't get is, gtx has been out for 6 or so months, only got the GTX thermalright heatsink this month, full cover waterblocks tend to take a while to come out also, this is only just available. for a product with a short lifespan waiting so long to get something out for it seems ridiculous. which also is why people use small gpu only blocks that can be mounted easily and quickly to brand new cards.

pastymuncher · 25 May 2007 at 19:42

drunkenmaster said:
you guys seem to be missing the main point. full cover blocks are essentially a complete pain in the ass and introduce a massive cost to your system as most full cover blocks aren't transferable to new graphics cards AND provide worse cooling than a gpu only block. you can clock further/get lower temps with a single gpu only block like the fusion or swiftech. the difference is the swiftech/fusion will only need(maybe not need) a new hold down to fit to a new graphics card so its £25 for a block and thats it. not £70 for every new card you buy. this is a $25 memory/mosfet cooler to provide enough surface area for either no direct airflow or silent air cooling as once you remove stock cooler mosfets and stuff get very little cooling. we've yet to really see memory that needs specific cooling to be honest.

so you buy a fairly longterm block that will work on basically any card from the last 3-4 years and probo most cards in the next couple years for £25 and buy a £12 for each card to cool the rest. rather than dump £70 on every new graphics card you buy. its econimcal and overclocks better.

what i don't get is, gtx has been out for 6 or so months, only got the GTX thermalright heatsink this month, full cover waterblocks tend to take a while to come out also, this is only just available. for a product with a short lifespan waiting so long to get something out for it seems ridiculous. which also is why people use small gpu only blocks that can be mounted easily and quickly to brand new cards.

My full cover EK 8800GTS block cost me £48, which for a high quality block is not that much. Before that i had a pair of 7800gt's with Aquaextreme MP-1 vga blocks fitted. They are exactly the same as DD Maze 4's but cheaper. Aquaextreme does not recommend the MP-1 blocks for the 8800 series so your arguement goes straight out of the window there. That was £50 wasted between the two blocks. My EK GTS block gives me lower temps than the MP-1's used to as well. My 8800 GTS @650/1900 is only hitting 35 degrees. I have'nt tried to find a max overclock using it as it is more than enough for every game i own as it is.

The D-Tek block has taken what seems like an age to come out and with this add on heatsink you will need cooling with a fan which sort of defeats the object of watercooling in the first place. This is a block that came out many months after the 8800 series. The full cover EK blocks were out within 6 weeks of the card coming out.

As for fitting, if you can't quickly fit a full cover block then you really must be doing something wrong. It is not hard or awkward/fiddely at all and only takes a few minutes. It's also solid copper and not aluminium.

chaparral · 25 May 2007 at 21:32

drunkenmaster said:
you guys seem to be missing the main point. full cover blocks are essentially a complete pain in the ass and introduce a massive cost to your system as most full cover blocks aren't transferable to new graphics cards AND provide worse cooling than a gpu only block. you can clock further/get lower temps with a single gpu only block like the fusion or swiftech. the difference is the swiftech/fusion will only need(maybe not need) a new hold down to fit to a new graphics card so its £25 for a block and thats it. not £70 for every new card you buy. this is a $25 memory/mosfet cooler to provide enough surface area for either no direct airflow or silent air cooling as once you remove stock cooler mosfets and stuff get very little cooling. we've yet to really see memory that needs specific cooling to be honest.

so you buy a fairly longterm block that will work on basically any card from the last 3-4 years and probo most cards in the next couple years for £25 and buy a £12 for each card to cool the rest. rather than dump £70 on every new graphics card you buy. its econimcal and overclocks better.

what i don't get is, gtx has been out for 6 or so months, only got the GTX thermalright heatsink this month, full cover waterblocks tend to take a while to come out also, this is only just available. for a product with a short lifespan waiting so long to get something out for it seems ridiculous. which also is why people use small gpu only blocks that can be mounted easily and quickly to brand new cards.

Swiftech MCW60-B block £27.49
MCW60 G80 adapter plate £5.89
Swiftech MC14 VGA Forged Copper Ramsinks £11.99
Swiftech MC21 Mosfet Heatsinks £6.99
ToTal = £52.36

Or

EK fullcover waterblock £54.50

w3bbo · 25 May 2007 at 21:54

chaparral said:
Swiftech MCW60-B block £27.49
MCW60 G80 adapter plate £5.89
Swiftech MC14 VGA Forged Copper Ramsinks £11.99
Swiftech MC21 Mosfet Heatsinks £6.99
ToTal = £52.36

Or

EK fullcover waterblock £54.50

The GTX needs 12 memory sinks so add another £11.99 to that price for a further pack of 8 = £64.35

You also need to factor in the risk of heatsinks dropping off as with some of the thermal taped ones (as in my zalman sinks on an old x800) - 3 fell off within a weeks heavy use, one of them barely missing my soundcard below which could have easily shorted. These (when they do stick) are pretty much non transferable unless you buy some new tape so a new set(s) will also need to be purchased come upgrade time. Never again will I use crappy stick on heatsinks. You can also add the price of selling the cpu block second hand which usually go for around have the price you paid which makes the purchase of a new block for your new card much less painfull. Oh...and the basic gpu only block solutions with heatsinks look poor - even if they do perform ever so slightly better.

I would find it hard to purchase an all in one solution if it were not competitive in price but when it actually beats the price, looks better, less hassle (imo) to fit and comparable performance, its hard to defend the more crude and dated mcw60/adapter plate/heatsink combo.

Full gpu block wins for me everytime.

Jokester · 25 May 2007 at 21:57

I had no end of trouble with heatsinks dropping off the RAM chips on my 8800GTXs, even using full strength thermal epoxy and the odd one would drop off if you knocked them.

Jokester

marscay · 25 May 2007 at 22:00

agree with w33bo, i like my acrylic EK GTX block too.

can't be bothered sinking these new cards :-

a. the cost of sinks adds up
b. it's hard to get them to stick 100% 24/7
b. i never go over low 40's with my EK block and it looks the dog's