new Dg384G, tiny question

turbotoes

turbotoes

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Hello there,

with my wag54g ( recently deceased) I used to connect to the internet via a broadband "dialup" in network connection (windows XP sp2)

however with my shiny new DG834G I just get the "error 678, remote computer did not respond etc!!"

I can connect just fine via the browser based doodad and that but I do miss my little instashortcut, "one click and you're there type thing"

apart from my router nothing else has changed on the network, and I even set the router to my old network address so my shortcuts to setup work in opera, so it can't be a firewall problem, and I set the routers firewall to allow calls from the network range addresses??

any help appreciated

turbotoes
 
I'm not sure what you mean by "Broadband Dialup"

On the WAG54G I had and the DG834G both are internet gateways - the negociate to the ISP and then provide a gateway no dialup is required. :confused:

You need to access the DG834G buy either entering http://192.168.0.1 or www.routerlogin.com (the latter may or may not work depending on your firmware revision)

Check the settings in there first.

Shunts
 
What I ment was broadband "dialup"
in network connections create a new connection and just configure it as broadband connection that requires user name and password, that way you can have a shortcut on your desktop or quick launch bar and one click and you are online, also you get the little connection icon in the clock toolbar thingy and you can just right click and disconnect. It works just like a manually set up "dialup" connection.
It's just a more elegant way of getting on line, especially for gaming than going through your browser.
It worked just fine with the old wag54g and also with my thomson speedtouch ethernet modem so I don't understand why not with the dg384g.
I know it's a bit picky but that's the way I am :p
 
The router 'dials' the internet as and when a connection is needed. You only need to configure the router with your ISP login name and password (if required). No need to setup a PC to login and connect to your internet account. Try using the wizard built into the router on http://192.168.0.1 In effect, as soon as the router is turned on it connects to the internet and is always online and ready to allow all the PC's connected to it to access the internet.
 
turbotoes said:
What I ment was broadband "dialup"
in network connections create a new connection and just configure it as broadband connection that requires user name and password, that way you can have a shortcut on your desktop or quick launch bar and one click and you are online, also you get the little connection icon in the clock toolbar thingy and you can just right click and disconnect. It works just like a manually set up "dialup" connection.
It's just a more elegant way of getting on line, especially for gaming than going through your browser.
It worked just fine with the old wag54g and also with my thomson speedtouch ethernet modem so I don't understand why not with the dg384g.
I know it's a bit picky but that's the way I am :p
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A router should always be online regardless of whether or not you open a browser. You should never need to invoke an archaic dialup routine from about 10 years ago :)

I'm using a DG834G myself. As the previous posters have said enter 192.168.0.1 into your web browser. The default username is admin and password is password.

Click on "Setup Wizard" and enter your username/password (if you're not using BT Broadband).
 
encephalopathy said:
sorry to hijack - the last bit there - can you confirm if you are on btbroadband then you won't need to enter user/pass into the dg834g?

thanks
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That's correct - with BT Broadband you don't need them. I think you need to populate the fields with something though. People normally use their email address for the username and leave the password field blank (from memory).
 
call me old fashioned if you will but there's no B****Y way I am leaving my pc connected live to the internet all the time, not no way , no how, not never!!!

turbotoes

as I said I've no problems being able to connect with the browser I just don't like doing it that way
 
I think you're getting confused.

The NETGEAR DG834G is an ADSL modem/router/firewall/access point and is designed to do what I say. Once it has synchronised with your exchange there is no real benefit in disconnecting each and every time you'd like to access the Internet. It is intended to serve multiple computers either concurrently or independently.

Bare in mind that telephone networks in the UK are in the process of migrating to an IP infrastructure. Are you saying you'll unplug your IP phone when you're not using it? :)

Turn the computer off by all means but leave the router on. It's just ghay not to :p
 
As I am not in the UK, your comment about ip phones is immaterial, and just because some one does not do things exactly as you do, does not mean they are wrong or "Ghay"

turbotoes
 
However the whole idea of the router is that it provides internet/network access for one or more computers at any time, not when YOU decide to connect to the internet. What is the point of disconnecting from the internet? If you want to be extra then you can turn it off at the wall, but I see no point.
 
turbotoes said:
call me old fashioned if you will but there's no B****Y way I am leaving my pc connected live to the internet all the time, not no way , no how, not never!!!

turbotoes

as I said I've no problems being able to connect with the browser I just don't like doing it that way
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I dont think your getting the concept...

The router is connected to the internet you are connected to the router on your local network, you access the internet, through the routers "Intenet Gateway". As FunkyT says - Dial Up is Archaic.

You can set an Idle Timeout in the router to disconnect you.

You do this by setting the "Idle Timeout (minutes)" to Zero. If you dont want the modem in the router connected all the time you can set this to say 20 minutes, if the router sees no internet traffic ie nothing on the Local Network wants to access the internet, for 20 minutes then the Modem Will disconnect from the ISP. When you then require access again, the modem will reconnect.

I know of no one that does this.

Remember your Local network is behind a SPI Firewall with Network Address Translation. I cannot see how that is a problem
 
encephalopathy said:
cheers!

have friend who has held off using router as she couldn't find any user/pass from bt
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To answer this question, I set up a DG834G the other week on BT Broadband. To make it easy I used [email protected], I think I left the Password Blank, if not it was just a random lot of characters. That works fine.

The BT Broadband is paid through the Phone bill, hence you dont need a password etc because if you dont pay your phone bill they cut your phone off along with your Broadband End of Exercise! :D
 
turbotoes said:
As I am not in the UK, your comment about ip phones is immaterial, and just because some one does not do things exactly as you do, does not mean they are wrong or "Ghay"

turbotoes
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Not to be patronising or anything, but 99.9%* of people who use wireless routers with built in modems leave their routers on, connected to the internet all the time. You leave the router on all the time, and turn your computer(s) on when you want to. The whole point is that you can just connect and have internet access without having to dial-up!

What exactly do you think is going to happen if you leave your router connected 24/7? The DG834G has a brilliant firewall built in, so much so that I'd feel happy running behind one without a software firewall. Generally speaking, you're not going to get hacked when you're behind a firewall that blocks all incoming ports by default. What do you expect to happen when you haven't got any computers turned on? Nobody is going to try and hack your router!

I'm sorry, but you're stuck in the past if you think there's something wrong with being connected to the internet all the time :rolleyes:

* Figure pulled out of the air for effect, but you get the idea
 
turbotoes said:
As I am not in the UK, your comment about ip phones is immaterial, and just because some one does not do things exactly as you do, does not mean they are wrong or "Ghay"

turbotoes
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My comment isn't immaterial. Here are some quotes you might like to read:

"France Telecom is axing 22,000 jobs - between eight and ten per cent of its workforce - in a bid to cut costs as it is hit by a decline in traditional telephone services."

"This decline 'intensified' over the last three months of 2005 as France Telecom came under increasing pressure from a growth in VoIP services, it said today."

Also, Naked DSL currently exists in France - we have some time to wait in the UK.
 
Mikey1280 said:
However the whole idea of the router is that it provides internet/network access for one or more computers at any time, not when YOU decide to connect to the internet. What is the point of disconnecting from the internet? If you want to be extra then you can turn it off at the wall, but I see no point.
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Exactly my point. A good analogy would to be to disconnect the mains electricity feed from your house when you don't have any lights or appliances switched on!

Johnny: "Can I watch TV please dad?"
Dad: "Hold on son, I'll just reconnect the mains supply"
Dad: "Let me know when you've finished as there's no way I'm leaving the house connected to the National Grid all night!"
 
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