new email client needed

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I am currently using windows live mail which worked perfectly with my gmail account under pop but my new iphone doesn't support pop access so i decided to go with imap but windows live mail is rubbish with gmail imap i keep getting syncing errors which miccrosoft states is normal. So here i am looking for a new client that will work with gmail under imap, any ideas?


,thxs
 
Outlook or Thunderbird, if you use firefox get the better Gmail extension and enable the redesigned skin and use the web based client.
 
Outlook 2007 is the best email client by a country mile for POP3/IMAP its like squashing a bug with a city centre.

Outlook or Thunderbird, if you use firefox get the better Gmail extension and enable the redesigned skin and use the web based client.

Sorry, made me chuckle seeing Thunderbird alongside Outlook, unless of course you mean Outlook Express.
 
What does Outlook do that Thunderbird can't; aside from Active Directory maybe?

Let's see....

Amazing calendar
Amazing Task/tracking management
Amazing contact management
Journal
Great rules management
Far, far more powerful email editing
VBA
SharePoint integration
etc etc

You cannot seriously be putting Thunderbird in the same league as Outlook...Thunderbird is a no frills email client which satisfies people obsessed with plain text emails and an adequate POP3/IMAP client. Outlook is a complete tool for productivity and organisation.
 
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Meh lol Thunderbird with Lightning (calendar/task management) integrated does fine for me, and I do have the opportunity to use Outlook 2007. I prefer it by far; much cleaner and more intuitive imho. Rules work fine, and I prefer its junk filtering. It also loads and runs faster ;)

I really don't know how powerful your email editing needs to be, but for me if it writes WYSIWYG HTML with options for font, size, photos, attachments etc, I'm happy. It's not DTP :p

Horses for courses I suppose. As I said I have the option to install Outlook 2007, and did use it for a while, but Thunderbird soon won me back - AND it's free so you can't really moan :D

EDIT: Nice ninja edit ;)

Thunderbird is a no frills email client which satisfies people obsessed with plain text emails and an adequate POP3/IMAP client. Outlook is a complete tool for productivity and organisation.

Plain text emails? LOL When did you last try Thunderbird? Was it 0.1 alpha? LOL
 
Meh lol Thunderbird with Lightning (calendar/task management) integrated does fine for me, and I do have the opportunity to use Outlook 2007. I prefer it by far; much cleaner and more intuitive imho. Rules work fine, and I prefer its junk filtering. It also loads and runs faster ;)

I really don't know how powerful your email editing needs to be, but for me if it writes WYSIWYG HTML with options for font, size, photos, attachments etc, I'm happy. It's not DTP :p

Horses for courses I suppose. As I said I have the option to install Outlook 2007, and did use it for a while, but Thunderbird soon won me back - AND it's free so you can't really moan :D

EDIT: Nice ninja edit ;)



Plain text emails? LOL When did you last try Thunderbird? Was it 0.1 alpha? LOL

It is horses for courses - I use Outlook 2007 because it is a complete solution, from its SharePoint integration to the fact I van easily write VBA from other Office apps to make tasks quicker. My parents prefer Outlook to Thunderbird also and they have little idea about computers.

I want to throw in Excel graphs, tables etc with no risk of losing formatting or it looking crap. I want to be able to paste anything from any office app with little hassle. I want one tool I can organise my working day from and it syncs to my phone (albeit mostly through push anyway) automatically and effortlessly.

I had thunderbird for a while for my IMAP personal account but I hated it, it just felt incomplete and inadequate.

I'm sorry but thunderbird looks like its from the 90s, Outlook 2007's interface is absolutely incredible :D
 
If you read the OP's post, he was using Windows LIVE MAIL. People who are in exchange enviroments may need outlook for calendars ect... but the OP seems to just want a desktop email client.

That is the reason I compared outlook to thunderbird, if I needed a desktop email client my choice would be outlook. But Gmails web interface is good enough for me as I have my calendar and RSS feeds in one place where ever I go and what ever machine I'm on.

/rant
 
Thunderbirds IMAP support takes a huge dump all over Outlooks, so for the task of working with Gmail's IMAP service the winner has to be Thunderbird.
 
Cheers for all your replies, i installed thunderbird its vasty better then live mail. Tomorrow when i find my office cd i'll install outlook 2007 and see how it compares.


,thxs
 
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