New hi-fi amp :)

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Hi guys, I currently have a Denon PMA-500v (old school!) powering some Tannoy Mercury customs. The amp is slowly dying a death, it struggles to output stereo (just plays through one channel unless i put it in mono) and sometimes just doesn't output at all and have to leave it on quite a while until sound starts outputting (something to do with capacitors I presume!)

Anyway time for a new amp, I have a max budget of £250 and will be keeping the Tannoy speakers as well :) I enjoy quite bassy music so something with a decent bass output would probably be the best (but not too overwhelming)... and that's probably the only key feature I really want :D

I see the Rotel ra-04 gets rated fairly highly and is within budget, anyone any experience of this at all?

Thanks
 
Total are good for a punchy sound.

I have a Marantz PM6004 which I use to drive some monitor audio bx5 speakers and it sounds wonderful.

However, no matter what people tell you, it's best to get yourself to a hifi dealer and listen your self, and make your mind up that way :)
 
NAD 326Bee is the best amp for that amount of money. It is a lot more powerfull and has a lot more bass than the Marantz... Yes they both have "50wpc" but in reality the NAD is a lot more powerfull than the Marantz in terms of dynamic output, headroom and ability to drive difficult loads.

Rotel is pretty good as well apparently but I would get the NAD personally. Best thing to do is go and try it out because it is your ears and only you can decide what sound you like.
 
More than willing to go second hand, but wasn't planning on making a purchase for another month or so (mostly because I don't have the money) but thanks for the offer nick :) Will have a look at the 326 bee!
 
Monitor Audio Speakers - best bang for buck speakers around - if you like bass look at their larger cab models - i.e. rx2, rx6 bx 2 bx 5

Or if you want awesome - get some Apex A10 and a sub get them set up well - they are seriously awesome speakers and proper kick out tight fast upper bass which makes all the rest sound so much better!!

"I have just bought some GX100 - they are a bass fest - larger cab / driver"
 
If the denon was good enough whilst it was working ok, why not repair it? Spec wise it looks pretty good and if you get sound out of both speakers with the mono switch in it suggests that the problem isn't in the poweramp section itself which should make it a lot cheaper to fix. Generally speaking the problems in devices of this age are caused by the electrolytic capacitors drying out and going open circuit.
 
I'm quite a fan of the Rotel sound. I'm currently using a Rotel 930AX integrated as a temporary amp and am enjoying the sound.

Only costs around £30 on ebay :)
 
Monitor Audio Speakers - best bang for buck speakers around - if you like bass look at their larger cab models - i.e. rx2, rx6 bx 2 bx 5

Or if you want awesome - get some Apex A10 and a sub get them set up well - they are seriously awesome speakers and proper kick out tight fast upper bass which makes all the rest sound so much better!!

"I have just bought some GX100 - they are a bass fest - larger cab / driver"

Already have some speakers, my Tannoy's are more than adequate and do not feel the need for a sub in the slightest!

If the denon was good enough whilst it was working ok, why not repair it? Spec wise it looks pretty good and if you get sound out of both speakers with the mono switch in it suggests that the problem isn't in the poweramp section itself which should make it a lot cheaper to fix. Generally speaking the problems in devices of this age are caused by the electrolytic capacitors drying out and going open circuit.


Could you give any more advice on this at all? I was quite vague with the issues in my OP but the key ones are :

-Very intermittent stereo sound, it will play through one speaker (say the left channel) and the other will be the very very seriously low end (e.g the cone moves but no noise!) I normally have to turn it up quite loud and switch between mono and stereo and then that seems to work

-sometimes no sound at all (normally when first turned on) if I turned the volume up very high I can make out the odd words, if left for 10 minutes or so it sounds fine (or will go to the above issue)

I would love to have this repaired, it was originally my dads and I personally love the sound that it produces (when it works that is) any advice would be most welcome :)
 
Usually most of the problems you get with older equipment (particularly stuff that runs warm or hot) are caused by the deterioration of the electrolytic capacitors used in them. They have a rated lifetime at a specified temperature, the lower their operating temperature, the longer they last. Usage also affects their lifetime, as they need to remain in use to survive, leave them discharged for ages and they'll age faster. They are the sleeved aluminium cans, usually made by elna, rubycon or nichicon in japanese equipment of this vintage.

These were the ones that came out of my luxman (from around 1984) Most of them were still measuring OK, but a few of them were dead. Only one was totally gone, which is the slightly discoloured one on the left but the others that were unhealthy showed no signs of age as it's all internal.
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There should be a few large filtration capacitors for the psu too. These will be quite expensive. It is not essential to replace them, but it would be wiser to avoid more problems in the future.
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To replace the caps you need to choose replacements that match the originals. (in uF, the voltage rating needs to be the same or higher) Almost all electrolytic capacitors will be polarised meaning that one side is marked negative and the pcb should also be marked. (isn't always so pay attention to the polarisation before you remove the cap) Bipolar capacitors will not have this mark The capacitors get are:

Nichicon PW, PE, HE, ES, FG, KZ (ES is bipolar, but can be used in place of polar caps, good for signal path use where film is too large and there was a polar cap previously as they have much lower distortion vs polar)
Rubycon ZL, ZLG, ZLK, ZLJ, ZLH
Panasonic FM, FR, FC

The tools you'd need are a de-soldering pump, a soldering iron and some solder. If you can't solder yet, you can either give it a go and learn by practising on something sacrificial, or find someone who can service/repair the unit local to you. So far though, i've fixed 6 separate bits of hi-fi (one was a car radio) all with simple capacitor replacement. Ignoring the main filter caps, it usually costs about £20-30 in total to do everything. With the main filter caps this can increase by around £30-50 depending on the size/voltage rating and number of psu filters. (usually something like a pair of 10,000uF 50V caps. Those mundorf 15,000uF 63V caps in the image above set me back around £20 each, though i wouldn't bother with mundorfs next time as they cost more than they are worth, better to stick with BHC/Kemet or Evox Rifa.)

I would also advise you get some deoxit D5 and clean all of the switches and volume/tone controls. (not the buttons/knobs, but the variable resistor/switch parts inside the amp)
 
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Cool thank you so much Kei, I dont electronics A-level so most of that rings a bell but we never done any soldering (brilliant course ey, pfft) so I might have to weight up my options or see if I can find anyone that would be able to do the soldering for me. I have cracked open the amp but will do a total count of capacitors at another time and see if I can work out what sort of price it will be to get the caps alone :)

Seriously thanks for all your help, very helpful post!
 
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