New I7-6700k build falling over

[dylanlaw79]

Hi guys, I just upgraded my system to the following:

I7-6700K CPU
Asrock Z170 Extreme6 motherboard
Team Group Vulcan 16GB DDR4-3000 (2x8GB)
Alpenfohn Olymp CPU Cooler (using MX-4 paste)
All purchased from Overclockers and delivered today

Built it all up today to replace my I5-4690K (running OC at 4.2GHZ for nearly 2 years) on a Asrock Z97 Extreme4 motherboard with 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3-2400 and I'm having some strange issues.

System will install Windows 10 Pro x64 fine to a Kingston UV300 SSD but when using WIndows I'm getting some odd issues. The system keeps making these strange screeching sounds which I've recorded as best I can and posted here - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_bZC1MF80bWRmdfOFZXc0gzMWM

I can't run Prime95 on the system at all, sometimes freezes other times certain workers fail. I have moved and reseated the RAM, removed the CPU cooler and repasted (I use the pea sized blob method in the centre of the CPU and temps are good) and I am running no overclock as yet. The rest of the system is fine and was running sweet as a nut before the upgrade (which I'm now regretting). All drivers are up to date and the latest BIOS is installed on the MB so I'm a bit stuck now as have no other spare parts to try out. Here is teh rest of my system:

XFX 650w Core PSU
Inno3D IChill X3 GTX 1070 Video Card
Asus Strix Soar Sound Card
Thermaltake Chaser A71 with plenty of fans for cooling
2x Kingston SSD drives, 1x Toshiba 2TB SATA & 1x Seagate 2TB SATA

Everything else worked OK before and I'm experienced with system building and overclocking etc. so just looking for some advice please.

Cheers in advance guys

 

[dylanlaw79]

Thanks for the tips guys. I tried running the Intel burn-in test yesterday before calling it a day and it fell over within about 10 seconds saying that the cpu was not stable enough to continue testing.

Going to try Darket's advice and strip evrything out and start with the basics. With the funny noise that the system is making when I am using it, I wonder if it is a VRM or something because I don't know if you can tell form the video but it definitely sounds like it is coming from the CPU area (loudest at around 40 seconds in)

 

[dylanlaw79]

It's OK guys, I have ocntacted OCUK and they have organised returns for the CPU and Motherboard so they can test them both. They agreed that the PSU should be up to the task as its a decent XFX 650w Core Edition that has been running my heavily OC'd 4690K for almost 2 years and they said it's highly unlikely to be the ram as the Prime95 and Intel Burn-in tests both fail due to CPU instability.

Apparently CPU's are more prone to failure now than before due to the memory controllers being built in to them. I only ever remember having 1 bad CPU out of hundreds when I worked in computer shops.

I did notice that when I removed the parts to send them back, the CPU socket on the motherboard almost looked like a pin or 2 were slightly out of place, I may be wrong but I know it would not have been down to my building it as I am incredibly meticulous when putting a system together. I have to admit I preffered it when pins were on the cpu, so much easier to look at and check allignment.

I also received the STOP code CHECK WATCHDOG TIMEOUT when playing around with it, which seems to indicate the CPU from what I've read on the internet.

Gutted now though as I've spent all this money and can't use my new bits so rebuilt with the old bits for now. Also I'm starting to lose heart for Asrock as a board manufacturer as my z97 Extreme 4 was delivered with faulty on board sound, hence why I run an Asus Strix Soar (couldn't be bothered stripping the system and returning the board to Amazon as it was a present from my other half) and now potentially this board could be faulty.

What brand would others recommend to use?

 

[dylanlaw79]

Usually takes 5-8 days to bed in.

Could this simply mean for some thermal pasts to have time to set as I know some work better once they've had a chance to get warm and settle in? Never known computer hardware to need time to settle, it usually either works straight away or it doesn't

 

[dylanlaw79]

I ran all voltages on standard, tried no overclocking of any sort and it still was not stable so sure its a hardware fault somewhere. I just hope OCUK can get it all tested and sorted out for me quickly. Does anyone know if they offer alternative parts if something is out of stock? Only asking as the Asrock board is currently out of stock on the website and stock levels were low for some times

 

[dylanlaw79]

But if they have been on the shelf all alone for a while they will need time to get to know there new friends :+D

Normally a few days for TIM but unless your ocd about temps you probably wouldn't even notice the difference.

It doesn't bother me, I didn't think I would have any thermal issues with the cooler I bought to go with it. I was just trying to find some justification to some mentions of letting the system bed in. It was the only thing I could think of. Electrical goods generally just work fine right from the moment they are switched on or they don't, regardless of any bedding in period

 

[dylanlaw79]

hope that ain't the case or you could be out a bit of money. did you check all was ok with the socket before fitting the cpu? you could have a job on your hands convincing OcUK it wasn't you bent the pins (assuming they are bent)

fingers crossed for you

To be honest I didn't pay much attention when setting up as I'm always so careful when building a system. The pins could be ok, it may just have been my eyes (hoping anyway) but it is hard to tell, always much easier when the pins were on the CPU (I had to straighten so many when customers had bent them). I can guarantee it wasn't me that did any damage, if there is any. I would happily go and build a load of systems for them to prove how careful I am and out of the many hundreds of systems I built previously I never had a single one fail down to anything I did or any negligence.

I have to admit that I wish I had checked it all over first as there is absolutely no way I would have assembled the system if I had noticed any anomolies with the socket. I really hope it is just my eyes as this was my last treat to myself for soemtime as my finances are coming crashing down around me right now at an alarming rate

 

[dylanlaw79]

You paid attention or you didnt pay attention??

I didn't look at the cpu socket with it being brand new, I was just happy the kit had arrived and wanted to get it assembled

 

[dylanlaw79]

First build I've used an Asrock extreme 4 z170 and I'm impressed.

Ocuk should sort you out

I hope so, I think I'm one of the most unlucky people around (even my own mum tells me that on a regular basis).

I've always liked the level of specification you get with an Asrock board and the reviews of them are always very good, hence why I've chosen them for my last 2 builds but I've had trouble with both (not my doing by the way).

I really hope OCUK can sort this and get me replacement parts sorted. I was hoping to sell my old parts to raise some cash but have had to build them back into my PC for now

 

[dylanlaw79]

The only difference will be the TIM takes a few hours to acheive maximum performance. How the hell that is going to make any difference whatsoever to a nasty sound is beyond me. Stop arguing semantics, he gave stupid and potentially disastrous advice and anyone that says different is deluded or contrary.

Well said. I think these applications that advise a 'bedding in' period need changing as it is quite misleading, nothing electronic needs to be bed in, they either work or they don't out of the box

 

[dylanlaw79]

None of the applications advise a bedding in period, the images are photoshoped, I think a few of us were mocking what HoneyBadger said in the 3rd post on this thread regarding letting your system "bed in"

Haha and that's why I shouldn't be using the Internet late in the evening

 

[dylanlaw79]

Here is an extract:

"Hi there

We don't sell a 30-day installation insurance because as rjk has stated UK law (Sale of Goods Act) covers you for this. There is no point in simply charging a customer for a right they already have. It would be a total rip off and here at OcUK the customer is King.

We have such good relationships with our suppliers that in the instance of any damage from CPU installation more than likely we can get your product repaired / replaced with a new one.

If you were to damage your pins in the CPU socket within 6 months I would just sort you out and replace or repair the board. So there really is no need for this sort of service.

I hope this clears it up

Bailey"

I hope that is true as I know it wasn't me, if the pins are damaged, who damaged them but I also can't shell out for another board. I should have checked it all before building but I 'assumed' all would be well as I have built dozens of LGA based systems and never damaged anything

 

[dylanlaw79]

Haha same

This one made me laugh the most though

Spoiler

Err, I thought it was real too

 

[dylanlaw79]

If it's Bailey you're dealing with, you're in safe hands matey

Personally I'd never open an electrical component and switch it on directly after delivery - have you felt how cold some of these packages get, even in the summer? Bringing that into a warm, (relatively) humid environment and whacking it straight on is asking for trouble; I'd always open the box and give it an hour to acclimatise.

Whether or not you'd call that "bed-in time" is up to you tho

I'm pretty sure some equipment documentation comes with that warning on it, I know I've seen it on some items due to condensation/moisture buildup from being stored in cold warehouses etc.

 

[dylanlaw79]