New intel or amd... the choices

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what CPU to buy....
ok so I've been waiting to upgrade my i5 3570k for a long time as you can see, I've always been a intel fan for many years and never bothered with amd. but with the new i9 basically being a big flop im really torn between buying a amd 5950x or 5900x. ive never overclocked amd processors so im not sure how much you can get from them or if its straight forward but off the bat the amd processors seem to be miles ahead on the charts right now.
i can wait for the new intel chips to drop at the end of the year but then your stuck in a never ending cycle of waiting. i also have some corsair ddr4 dominator ram which i won in a raffle a while ago that i can use but not if i wait for the new intel they will be ddr5.
im currently running 2 980ti sli which i will be upgrading to either a 3080ti or 3090 which ever i can get first really.
so the option is should i grab a new amd chip and be happy knowing ive got a power house or do i wait for what could possibly be another flop at the end of the year let alone the wait to actually nab one when or if it ever comes in stock going by the current situation....

 

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This, get the 12 core (5900X) if you're keeping it for a few years.

why not the 5950x? I know it’s a fair bit more expensive but do you really think I wouldn’t get any benefit from it?
I just don’t want to buy the wrong one and in a year regret not paying the extra, I’m going to keep it for a long time so I really don’t mind spending the extra if I will get use of it even if it’s maybe light use for the extra money. the last build was a long time ago but I had high spec stuff so it sort of lasted the time. I was very lucky with my i5 tho it run for years at 5ghz so I can’t complain

 

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Going by what’s out at the moment then the 5950x is pretty much a crazy idea so between the 5900x and a i9 11900k, I know the 11900k has a bad rep at the moment but isn’t that due to the fact everyone was expecting more from them in all applications such as workloads but in game terms it’s on par with the 5900x.
Core wise I see games don’t optimise or utilise higher cores as of yet but soon they will be as most new chips seem to be increasing the count.

I plan on keeping it for a good few years so I want something that will keep up and not just be good value for money currently if that makes sense. Money isn’t an issue but obviously excess amounts isn’t going to be wasted if I can help it haha

 

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The 11900K has 8 cores vs 12 on the 5900X, if you're just looking for an 8 core gaming CPU for an RTX 3090 the 5800X is the best you'll get.

I’m not so fixed on cores but I did like the idea of the 5900x having the 12 cores for when I’m not just gaming and I’m doing some coding etc and other projects.
Would the 5800x perform better in game with a 3090 or would a 5900x perform better? Cost wise it isn’t a big jump in price as apposed to the 5950x

 

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I'd try and get a GPU first as there's not much point in upgrading till then and newer better CPUs maybe available at that point.

Problem is they are never in stock and my luck I will get a new gpu and won’t be able to get the cpu and mobo in stock, I’d rather buy what’s available now then keep saving towards a 3090 when the one I want comes in stock

 

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I think I’m going to get the 5900x, it’s going to be a rock solid choice by what I’m hearing and future proof which is what I try to aim for, I realise end of this year/ q1 next year is going to another leap but I’m tired of waiting and I don’t know what funds I’ll have available then considering I have 3 kids and 3 hobbies haha.


The next question really has to be what motherboard..
I’m torn between viii formula or viii dark hero.
I have a large desk with the pc integrated and I have a lot of water cooling parts in it so I like the idea of the formula as it has the waterblock built in already and some other boards don’t have them available by ekwb. With this one it’s a bit part aesthetics as it’s all seen, my desk actually has 2 computers built in and the other one is running an older formula so would be nice to match but I’ll go by recommendations with this one. I’ve pretty much only ever owned top end ASU’s boards and I like the way they have it all laid out but it’s been a while since I’ve had to overclock so not to sure with simplicity anymore.

 

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I opted for the 5900x in the end,
I’ve paired it with a ASU’s viii dark hero as I really liked the look of the board and mine is always on show, I’ve bought a mono block for the cpu and vrm cooling from ek, I was going to just leave the vrm on stock air cooling but the ocd got the better of me.
Doesn’t look like temps are a problem with amd anyway as the tdp is pretty low in comparison to intel.
As my desk build is pretty big it has plenty of fresh airflow anyway so passive cooling on the chipset shouldn’t be a problem either.
I grabbed a couple of gen 4 Samsung m.2 sticks As the speeds looked pretty snazzy, mostly won’t even be pushing them to half of what they are capable of in reality tho, I do hear using 2 m.2 sticks disabled a couple of data ports is this correct? I’ve never owned a mobo with m.2 in the new factor as the last one I owned was a maximum v extreme and it had that stupid attachment thing which only took the smallest size that was almost impossible to buy haha never bothered in the end as I gave up hunting

 

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I'm betting that's a typo and he opted for the 5900X.

It was indeed I didn’t spot that thanks haha. It was a 5900x