New job, same salary

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You may have seen the redundancy thread I posted a few months back.

As it turned out, someone on our team who's job was business critical resigned. I applied for his job, was interviewed and successfully got it. He was senior in terms of experience and I saw the job as a great opportunity to learn, hopefully develop my own skills and put me in good stead for a pay rise in the future.

I did not mention salary in the interview but did ask if my job description would change to what the persons was before. I was told it would not partly due to everyones changing when all redundancies had taken place. The job title that went out on the spec was the same as what it is now, just with different required skillset. (though saying that the actual title is different on the meeting invite)

A few people have said I was daft not to ask for a raise, despite the lack of experience. My thoughts were that once I had more experience I would be in a better position to ask as would be needed. I find what I am doing interesting and have been studying more out of work hours and also have the opportunity to go on training courses during work hours.

From a legal standpoint, if the job spec went out to all the business and I was interviewed and successfully got it, should I be on the same salary as my predecessor?
 
Moved to careers.

Have you missed the boat? Possibly, but discuss the package with your employer and see if there isn't scope to move "if you prove yourself". Otherwise, you're out of luck.
 
Think you've blasted yourself in the foot here - I don't think you've got any bargaining power.

You've already agreed to take on the new job, if they decide that they're not going to give you a salary bump and you resign, they've saved themselves any redundancy payout they would have had to have made.

I wish you the best of luck, but I'd be surprised if you got anything.
 
I'm interested to see how this turns out - we've just had a restructure and I've been assigned to Tier 2 role of application support (Previously covered T1 and T2) however while the Job Title may have changed the Description hasn't (which I'm less than impressed about)

Keep us updated OP, hope it goes the way you're wishing it too!
 
mattyg said:
Take on the job...Do it well..THEN ask for more money.

Wait until your an asset before asking for more money
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You should be paid a good market rate for the role you are in, therefore discussing salary at the point of interviewing is fundamental.
 
I discussed terms down to travel arrangements let alone pension and so on in my most recent interview :)

It can be different when viewing an internal move but you still need to have the conversation.
 
mattyg said:
Take on the job...Do it well..THEN ask for more money.

Wait until your an asset before asking for more money
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This was my thinking.

I did this in the past and ended up with an 8k payrise.

There is a hell of a lot more to learn this time but when (if) I do and show im worth it then I can ask again - If not, then it'll be time to walk with my new knowledge (maybe returning as a contractor as quite a few people have done at our company on probably 4x as much money)
 
On the flipside if you take a new job and don't negotiate a rise at the 'point of sale' then you may find yourself in a situation where no matter how well you perform at the job down the line you may be limited in the pay rises you can get.

I've twice changed job role/department internally (ignoring promotions) and neither time I was particularly happy with the salary offered. The first time wasn't so bad as it was still a decent rise in percentage terms, but the second time it resulted in me being underpaid for quite a while. I felt I was delivering and had positive performance appraisals but was paid around 25% less than others in the same role.

One approach would be (in general, not this situation) if there is any probationary period for the new role to negotiate a pre-agreed rise that will be granted upon successful completion of the probation. That way you can demonstrate your confidence in being able to prove yourself in the role BUT still be guaranteed a fair salary at the end of it.

Personally I would not simply try to prove your worth, ask again and then look for a new job - progress the move now as it sounds like this mob will keep mugging you off; there will be no magical pot of gold waiting for you at the end.

Finally to address the question about "should I be on the same salary as my predecessor", that is just a rough benchmark that can be influenced by many factors and the answer is basically "No" especially as by your own admission they were senior in terms of experience. You can use it as ammunition, assuming your skills are comparable, but all else being equal I'd expect you to be paid less.
 
Well, I brought it up last week and the answer was that it was simply overlooked.

I now have a payrise which is being backdated to when I officially changed roles. Not the same as my predecessor but did not expect it to be. Still a long way to go, much to learn but pleased.

In short, I am very happy with the outcome and will be celebrating this weekend with my new found wealth (or coming wealth)
 
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