New mATX i7 build ~ £1300

Associate
Joined
17 Jun 2009
Posts
29
First of all I'd like to say hello to everyone, this is my first post in this forum, but I have been reading the great advice in these pages for a few weeks now. I am looking to build a new PC, and like many others here would like to hear your opinions on the components I have chosen.

The PC will be used for gaming, mainly flight sims and car racing, but things like crysis and far cry occasionally. Another requirement is to keep noise to a minimum, so I don't mind spending a little more for components of similar performance if there is a noise benefit. Also, as the title says, I’m looking to for an mATX build to reduce the size physical size.

My old PC is rubbish (Athlon XP 3200+, remember those... I have a work laptop, hence haven't looked to upgrade sooner), so I'm going to start from scratch. This means that I need everything right down to the monitor and keyboard. The price should be around £1300 and include everything.

Ok, so here are the components:

i7build.jpg


You are probably going to ask what am I doing putting the Asus GeForce 9600GT in this system. Well, if I was patient, I would wait for the new AMD Radeon 5800 series graphics cards to come out, but since I'm not, I will put this in the system now and in a few months time I will by a Radeon 5800 (probably in October together with Windows 7)

Not entirely sure on the storage solutions. Haven't found the difference between the Green and Black WD hard drives. 2TB sounds like too much right now, but will run them in a Raid 0 configuration. Happy to hear suggestions in the department though.

I haven't seen any reviews on the Samsung SM2494HM, but the specs look good. Looking for a full HD resolution (1920x1080) and HDMI socket as I have a PS3. I'm also likely to add a Blu-Ray Drive eventually, so the Full HD resolution seems to make more sense.

The Mini P180 reviews all seem to recommend it highly. Only down side is having to remove the bottom HDD cage for full size GFX cards, but then again, I'm not likely to be using more that 3 HDDs, so these would fit on the top HDD cage. Will probably end up getting a 120mm Fan (another Noctua?) to put on the bottom front spot, so the HDD would have to come out anyway.

The USB wireless adapter is probably a bit overkill... anyone had it working with a BT Home Hub (The old white ones, not the new black ones)?

I am saving some money by using the Windows 7 RC (64-bit).

Oh, nearly forgot, I'm not aiming for crazy overclocks, 3.6 GHz will probably be the maximum. Again, will have to strike a balance between more Hz and lower noise.

Thanks in advance for your help!
 
Just a thought, but does the Noctua HSF fit inside that case???

Apart from that, I personally think everything looks fine, except the 9600GT but you have explained your reasons for this in your post...
 
The 4850 is only like £3 more expensive though mate. You may as well get the better card now as it will sell for more when you upgrade. Also i wouldnt use the green drives as your main boot drives. Good for storage but the caviar black and spinpoints are faster for os and apps

EDIT: Too Slow
 
Hi and welcome to the forums.

It's a good looking spec, but there are a few things I would most definitely change.

1. Change the RAM to this. Much cheaper and same performance.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-008-PA&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1389

2. Change the Graphics Card to a 4850, which costs £6 more, but will beat the 9600GT like it stole something.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-168-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938

3. The WD Black hard drives are quicker, whereas the Green's only spin at 5400RPM, but are more power efficient. I would personally go with a Black.

4. The Noctua CPU cooler is very good, but the Titan Fenrir is best value for money at the moment. (It's cooler, but it's also a bit louder than the Noctua).
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-008-TI

5. Finally, you don't need a 750W PSU for your single card setup. If however, in the future you want a dual card setup then it will be fine. If you're not worried about having it modulare, then go for this PC P&C, which is excellent.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-004-PP&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1104
 
I've got a Fenrir and they are very good but rather loud at full pelt. As the OP said noise as a large factor, personally i'd stick with the Noctua (if it fits). I would also stick with the Corsair psu or maybe a Be Quiet model
 
I've got a Fenrir and they are very good but rather loud at full pelt. As the OP said noise as a large factor, personally i'd stick with the Noctua (if it fits). I would also stick with the Corsair psu or maybe a Be Quiet model

Must've skipped the part where he mentioned noise. Yeh in that regard, the Noctua will be better.

With regards to PSU, for a 750W, the PC P&C really is top class, and is priced a lot less than its rivals.
 
Just a thought, but does the Noctua HSF fit inside that case???
I did consider that, and it might be a tight fit... However, looking at the screenshots on this thread, the fan at the top of the case is 200mm, and the heatsink is 158mm tall (not sure where to where), so it should be ok.

The WD Black hard drives are quicker, whereas the Green's only spin at 5400RPM
Ahh, that makes sense. What about SSD options? I could get this instead of one of the WD drives:

ocz solid series 30gb 2.5" sata-ii solid state hard drive (oczssd2-1sld30g)

might be worth spending the extra £13 to get the ocz agility series instead?

thanks for the tip on the patriot ram. never heard of it before, but a lot of people seem to go for it and it has lifetime warranty just in case :). i have been looking at the pc p&c silencer 750 and it does look good and cheaper. if its in stock at the time i order, i'll go for it. but the corsair is good choice otherwise? modular would be nice, but seems like the extra money is not worth it. i think its less of an issue on the mini p180 since the psu is in a different chamber to the rest of the components, so the extra cables wont block airflow in the main part of the case.

regarding the gfx card, one of the games i'm interested in being to play well is microsoft flight simulator x, and according to these charts on Tom's Hardware, it looks like the 9600GT is more capable than the HD4850. Anyway, if getting the 4850, wouldn't it be better to wait for the 4770's to be in stock? They are appearing in some retailers, so hopefully Overclockers will have them in soon.
 
basic 7 install takes around 10Gb figure anothe 5 for office and video programs, leaves another 10-15gb for games, I'd say if you are going to get one now go for a 60gb one, but I'd suggest waiting on the ssd until windows 7 has gone gold and ssd's with windows 7 natrive trim support are out, until then just use a notmal hdd in place of the ssd
 
Forgot to ask, will 30GB really be enough, or is it so small that I'm just wasting my money?
It's big enough for a work based machine but really isn't big enough if the main intention is to play games. You'll only get 1-2 games on the space left after installing the OS and any necessary programs which will just make it seriously irritating unless you only play 1 game at a time.
 
Thanks for the advice, think sensible thing to do then is to buy a single WD Black 640GB drive for now. Then consider buying a 60 or 120GB SSD when upgrading to Windows 7 and looking out for TRIM support. If, or more likely when i run out of space, I can always get a 1 or 2 TB drive to go in the 3rd HDD slot.
 
Last I checked/used, wireless PCI network cards tend to be better than USB. & agree Belkin N+ is overkill considering the router doesn't support that feature.

But if aiming for a quiet system, going small case & or a non-modular PSU might prove fruitless. What I'm saying is, a larger case could have better airflow meaning quieter running of all fans = silence :)
 
This looks like it is going to be a sweet build. i was going to go down the i7 route, but i just couldn't justify the cost. I have pretty much the same spec, except im using a Q9550 and an mATX 775 mobo.

my piece of advice is, if your are serious about gaming, lose the USB wireless adapter and use homeplugs and ethernet. there is nothing more annoying than getting into the thick of the action, then to lag, and see yourself dead, seriously harmed, or miles away from everybody else! :)

Apart from that, sweet looking setup, looking forward to seeing some pics +benches soon! :D
 
Thank you all for your advice. Think i've settled on this:

Samsung SM2494HM 24" LCD Monitor
Intel Core i7 920 D0
Asus Rampage II Gene Intel X58
Patriot Viper 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600MHz) Low Latency Tri-Channel (PVT36G1600LLK)
Antec Mini-P180
PC P&C Silencer 750
Asus GeForce 9600 GT 512MB GDDR3
Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366)
Noctua NF-P12 Vortex-Control 120mm Quiet Case Fan
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB
Belkin F5D8055UK 300Mbps N+ Wireless USB Network Adapter
Logitech Cordless 1500 Rechargeable Desktop
Sony BDU-X10S Blu-Ray Reader SATA
Sony Optiarc AD-7241S 24x DVD±RW SATA-II Lightscribe

£1280 all in.

Any comments on the choice of monitor?

Will stick with the wireless USB adapter for now as I don't want another card inside the case. Also if I do go for a dual video card setup in the future, there will only be space for the two GFX cards.

Other than that, I've added a Sony Blu-Ray drive and a Noctua case fan.

Looking to take the plunge towards the end of next week, so there is still time for changes:D

Apart from that, sweet looking setup, looking forward to seeing some pics +benches soon! :D

Once I get it built, I will post pics and will be asking for advice on which benchmarks to run.
 
Ordered today for delivery next week. Will start building next weekend and will post pics as I go along. What software should I try to get hold of now so that the installation goes smoothly and what free benchmarking software is recommended? I've already downloaded Windows 7 RC.
 
Right, everything arrived this week and I set about putting it all together yesterday.

Samsung SM2494HM 24" LCD Monitor
Intel Core i7 920 D0
Asus Rampage II Gene Intel X58
Patriot Viper 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600MHz) Low Latency Tri-Channel (PVT36G1600LLK)
Antec Mini-P180
PC P&C Silencer 750
Asus GeForce GTX 275
Noctua NH-U12P SE1366 CPU Cooler (Socket LGA1366)
Noctua NF-P12 Vortex-Control 120mm Quiet Case Fan
Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB
Belkin F5D8055UK 300Mbps N+ Wireless USB Network Adapter
Logitech Cordless 1500 Rechargeable Desktop
Sony Optiarc AD-7241S 24x DVD±RW SATA-II Lightscribe

Here is the build log with pictures and some of my observations!

All the components
11072009001.jpg



The Antec Mini P180 internals
11072009008.jpg



PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750
11072009019.jpg



Asus Rampage II Gene mATX
11072009029.jpg



Noctua NH-U12P
11072009022.jpg



The parts of the Noctua
11072009023.jpg



Heatsink installed on the motherboard
11072009036.jpg



Motherboard installed in the case and the Patriot RAM installed
11072009044.jpg



Asus GeForce GTX 275
11072009045.jpg



Graphics card installed
11072009051.jpg



A spot of cable management!
11072009053.jpg



Finished system
11072009054.jpg



First start up!
11072009062.jpg



I think I made a few mistakes during the build which made my life much harder. By installing the heatsink early on, it was much harder to do the wiring. I kept having to remove the fans on the heatsink and case to reach all the connectors.

I'm happy with my attempt at cable management. Managed to get all the cables to behind the motherboard tray so airflow should not be interrupted.

The first few startups took a long time to post (30 seconds). I investigated and only one ram module was detected, so took them all out and reseated them one by one. All three were detected with no problems.

Only problem I have at the moment is that the wireless adapter isn't recognized after a restart. I have to disconnect and reconnect it for it to be detected. Any ideas?

I want to run some benchmarks and monitor temps before doing any overclocking.
 
Back
Top Bottom