New Micro ATX Gaming Rig

qwerttty · 8 Mar 2007 at 13:23

I am considering buying a new rig for games mostly, my current pc being a sempron 3000, geforce 6600

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I wanted to go for the micro ATX mb's and cases, but am not sure they will fit the psu's and gfx cards. But anyway i have decided to go for a AMD and nvidia mix, my budget being about 700 but willing to stretch to 800, i already have moniter, mouse etc. so only need the box and the bits in it as it where

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O another thing, i was not sure to have a 8800 which will enable dx10 shizzle, or go for the 7 series of nvidia.

Idea's guys?

and thanks.

masslac · 8 Mar 2007 at 13:27

Intel >>> AMD atm.

Win.

Downgrade to http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-065-HT if you don't wanna splash out for the 8800GTS.

squiffy · 8 Mar 2007 at 13:30

Kinda pointless to consider MATX if you want a 8800, being that you'll need a large case to fit one of those.

qwerttty · 8 Mar 2007 at 13:32

That was what i was thinking, i like the idea of small pc's but is there any cases at all that would fit the massivley oversized card?

o and masslac thanks but that is not a micro atx case

masslac · 8 Mar 2007 at 13:35

qwerttty said:
i like the idea of small pc's but is there any cases at all that would fit the massivley oversized card?

No, hence my suggestion of the lian li. TBH I prefer the idea of adequate airflow/cooling, and mine really is the best machine you'll get for £800.

squiffy · 8 Mar 2007 at 13:36

How deep is the 8800?
I have a Silverstone TJ-08, and could measure it for you (check if the 8800 fits)

Tute · 8 Mar 2007 at 13:38

The Sugo will take anything except the 8800GTS 640 and the GTX as it comes in the box, and even then it just means you remove the 3.5" drive bays and screw the HDD into the second 5.25" bay.

Not a problem at all. I run mine with the 3.5" bays removed anyway, better airflow.

qwerttty · 8 Mar 2007 at 13:46

Thanks Tute

, it's a very good looking case if a bit pricey, although i can not see it for sale on overclockers hmmm.. anyway with the 8800 being possible in a micro atx case, what would you reccomend guys?

squiffy · 8 Mar 2007 at 13:50

More roomy than a Sugo (which is pretty cramped being a cube)

If the 8800 fits.

qwerttty · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:01

Cheers squiffy although i think i shall stay with the cube case, tight as it may be, it certainly has charm. So right now that is decided what of the chips and bits?

I was thinking X2 processor, 2 gig of ram, a raptor 160GB but past this i am not sure. There seems to great a wealth of choice, and the choice of a mobo complete confuses me, if i buy a cheap one for instance does it bottle neck the whole system or does it just mean i will miss out on a few extra features of the board.

masslac · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:03

See my first post.

qwerttty · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:06

That is a ATX board and will no way fit inside the cube case masslac.

squiffy · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:06

qwerttty said:
Cheers squiffy although i think i shall stay with the cube case, tight as it may be, it certainly has charm. So right now that is decided what of the chips and bits? I was thinking X2 processor, 2 gig of ram, a raptor 160GB but past this i am not sure. There seems to great a wealth of choice.

That's a fair beat of heat in there, the Sugo intake/exhaust system is quite poor, compared to the TJ-08 (12cm intake and exhaust) Also TJ-08 allows a larger CPU cooler.

IMO if you're looking at a gaming rig I would get a larger MATX case, you don't want to pack hot items into a poorly ventilated MATX cube.

Will_3rd · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:12

qwerttty said:
I was thinking X2 processor, 2 gig of ram, a raptor 160GB but past this i am not sure.

C2D surely? you mean, 2 gig of RAM, Raptor isn't worth, better off with of a Seagate or WD, will beat it on everything except random access reading.

qwerttty said:
There seems to great a wealth of choice, and the choice of a mobo complete confuses me, if i buy a cheap one for instance does it bottle neck the whole system or does it just mean i will miss out on a few extra features of the board.

DS3/DS4 P5B/P5N are all great boards, cheaper ones especially mATX ones have limited headroom for overclocking

qwerttty · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:14

No i have truly decided to go with AMD, it may be folly on my behalf. BUT i have used AMD all of my pc life and well... i shall stick with them.

Tute you spoke of using this case in your micro ATX rig, can you tell how it performs? (heat, etc.)

squiffy · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:18

qwerttty said:
No i have truly decided to go with AMD, it may be folly on my behalf. BUT i have used AMD all of my pc life and well... i shall stick with them.

I have always stuck with Intel- being that AMD has always been crappy unstable system, I now have two A64's.

The current C2D offer superior performance over AMD line.

The Sugo is well known to be a little oven.

Will_3rd · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:19

qwerttty said:
No i have truly decided to go with AMD, it may be folly on my behalf. BUT i have used AMD all of my pc life and well... i shall stick with them.

Lol your funeral mate, no point to brand loyalty when Intel blows away AMD's offerings

qwerttty · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:21

Hmmmm the whole of the forums seems against AMD, is their none who stand by it loyaly?

CaDLoN · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:22

Hey Hey...

I'm running an 8800GTS 320MB in my Lian Li v300, it's fits... just :rolleyes:

only a little bit of dremmeling required :eek:

Cooling is fine, there's 2 x 80mm @ the front, 1 x 80mm beside the CPU, the PSU & the 8800 chucking out air.

All in all i'm quite pleased with it

Apart from the fact my Hyper 580 Type R didnt fit

squiffy · 8 Mar 2007 at 14:24

qwerttty said:
Hmmmm the whole of the forums seems against AMD, is their none who stand by it loyaly?

Why? What's the point of "loyality" if Nvidia 8900GTX performs like a Voodoo Banshee would you buy it, instead of a ATI R600?