New mountain bike advice needed

Nor

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Hello fellas,

My current bike is a Trek 850, but it needs a load of work done to it, so thought it'd probably be cheaper picking up a new bike at Halfords.

Does this Shockwave Xt900 seem decent enough for £150?

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That bike is crap. Real crap. Take your £150 and flush it away... ;)

Go for a good 2006 hardtail (that's front suspension only) as rear suspension at that price just means you will be bobbing all the while wasting energy. You can get something like a Specialized Hard Rock for £200 or may I suggest a GT Avalanche 3.0 or 3.0 Disc. Brilliant frames and you can upgrade the parts as you go along.

GT Avalanche 3.0

Specialized HardRock Sport

Hope that helps, but please avoid Halfords crap (though you can buy a Kona or Caldera from Halfords)
 
LordSplodge said:
Only if he wants a bike that everybody else has and weighs more than a house! :p ;)

Go and buy the GT. Go on, be different.


How is buying a GT being different? :p
and GT's have funny frames :confused:
 
Can someone explain why the Halfords one is crap, just so I know what to look out for. Thanks.
 
£150 can't get you a rigid MTB, let alone FS. That FS is crap. Spend £200+ on a rigid, £450+ on a front suspension, £700+ on full suspension.
 
Nor said:
Can someone explain why the Halfords one is crap, just so I know what to look out for. Thanks.


As with anything you get what you pay for, £150 gets you a toy, around the £300 mark and your looking at a bike that is built for the purpose that it was intended for. After that the more you pay the better spec you will get and the better it will perform.

Under no circumstances should you buy that or any other bike like it, You would be far better off saving for a bit longer and getting something like a Specialized Hardrock or GT Avalanche as these would make ideal begginer bikes with good frames giving you the option to upgrade parts as you go along.
 
Matt said:
How is buying a GT being different? :p
and GT's have funny frames :confused:

It is different because the only two I ever see are mine and the wives :D

Yeah, they have funny frames but they are very strong and quite light...anyway I like the quirky frames. I always like to pimp GT!
 
Nor said:
Can someone explain why the Halfords one is crap, just so I know what to look out for. Thanks.

The "rear suspension" is just a spring. What happens when you pedal is half of your pedal power goes into compressing the spring rather than powering you forward. Secondly, the spring has no recoil control so when you hit a bump you spend about a week bouncing up and down. This is good if you are a woman, have a nice ass and I am riding behind you...otherwise it is bad and off road you will fall off because of this.

The components on that Halfords bike are tat and will break, especially the groupset. Imagine driving a car with a bad gearbox, changing gear will be clanky.

The frame, the core component of any decent mountain bike on the Shockware is rubbish. Most likley steel and even heavier than a Hardrock so going up hill won't be fun.

My advice stands. Get a good 2006 hardtail model. Spend at least £200-300 quid. Then if you get into the hobby you can either upgrade the components because you have a good frame or sell the bike and buy one in the next level up.

Oh, and if big old bad American GT or Specialized don't float your boat buy an Orange. Made in the UK!!!

A slice of the Orange

Hope that helps...
 
I shivered when i saw the pic.....i HATE those bikes. Think it says its 20kg on the box and they are damnnnnn heavy. The brakes wont be set up and dont stop you for **** its like the flintstones. The front forks dont move and the rear doest move much either.
 
i used to think them bikes were awesome, like a full sus for £99 haha, then i rezliazed that they only last a few months before everything starts breaking, and their real heavy bikes.
 
In my begginer days, I used a bike like that. What a horrible experience trying to ride single track on it I had.

Firstly it weighed a tonne. Climbing on road or off was a miserable experience. The rear suspension was soft enough that it compromised traction on all terrain but smooth tarmac. It sapped atleast a third (perhaps half) of all the energy I was putting in peddling. Wasted on bobbing around.

This is rather disconcerting at first but did actually challange my balance skills on anything technical where the bumps were big. Still, not confidence inspiring and not what a proper bike should do.

Also, the rear suspension pivot points where so poorly constructed, that despite tighting, there was about 3mm's of movement at the pivot point next to the bottom bracket. 3mm's doesn't sound a lot, but translated back down the chain stays to the wheel drop outs, it results in the wheel moving up to 2 cm's off of dead straight, making for some perculiar cornering behaviour.

The front suspension also bobbed excessively, robbing me of further effort. The components were rubbish, gear changing loud, not at all smooth and just horrible. This thing had awful V brakes, and plastic brake levers. Absolute rubbish performance that forced me to limit my speed and not enjoy myself as much as I might otherwise.

There was a little give in the bottom bracket / crankset. With my weight on the drive chain side pedal, it moved a few mm's. More wasted energy.

Just about every moving part creaked and groaned, sounding as if it was operating at the edge of specification. I am not a big guy at all. I don't know my weight but its probably around 10 stone as I am 5' 10", and moderately built and not overweight.

The accumulated experience left me nervous and fearing for my life should the brakes fail!

Halfords invariably sell toy shop bikes. Go to a LBS and get a entry level model from a big name brand such as Trek, GT, Giant, Specialised, Kona etc. You will get a very solid bike.
 
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