new nursery time MAJOR PC RANT

I just made a game for Uni it had Black sheep and White sheep in..... I better go censor them so I dont get called racisit by my lecturer! :D
 
Syph said:
OT, but:

We pay our childminder £45 a week to look after our daughter 9-1.30, 4 days a week. This was much cheaper than nurseries, unless we could get her into a nursery that was part of the missus' chain of nurseries. One nursery was close to £500 a month, because it would cost us x amount extra with us needing 30 mins over the cost of a morning session etc.

Most childminders around here however charge between £2.50 and £3 an hour, which is very reasonable.
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be lucky to find a good one round our way for under £3.50 an hour (including food).
 
Syph said:
We pay our childminder £45 a week to look after our daughter 9-1.30, 4 days a week. This was much cheaper than nurseries, unless we could get her into a nursery that was part of the missus' chain of nurseries. One nursery was close to £500 a month, because it would cost us x amount extra with us needing 30 mins over the cost of a morning session etc.

Most childminders around here however charge between £2.50 and £3 an hour, which is very reasonable.
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Isn't that below the minimum wage? :)
 
Morba said:
be lucky to find a good one round our way for under £3.50 an hour (including food).
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We were quite lucky really, as some were absolutely shocking. Nice people, but awful houses :( We pay £2.50, but that's without food. We provide everything bar the toys too.

We knew we'd got the right one when Evie cried because she didn't want to leave :D

Samtheman1k said:
Isn't that below the minimum wage? :)
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Yeah, but they can have several children depending on age. Can make a fair whack from childcare. I bet some pull £15p/h.
 
Ahh, I got told off and sent to the headmasters office for singing the same song in Year 2 at school which was in 1994, so nothing new tbh.
 
Mr Mag00 said:
, which is negative, but black board? it's a colour of a display board using chalk for gods sake!!!
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What do they call a whiteboard then?
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It's the same as saying a coffee without milk instead of black coffee it's really insane.

Banning colours now is just crazy.
 
Yeah, but they can have several children depending on age. Can make a fair whack from childcare. I bet some pull £15p/h.
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My mum is a childminder and during the day she can have around 3 or 4 kids. Then she goes to school at the end of the day and picks up another 5 or 6.

It might seem like good money but it is a very difficult job and unfortunately some parents don't pay up on time. They themselves would be angry if their employer didn't pay them on time and it shows their disrespect for childminders when they don't bother to pay on time.

On top of that childminders are now regulated by Ofsted who are a bunch of anal retentive pen pushers whose experience with children seems to be from books. They are even making childminders take an NVQ in childcare. All the childminders I know are mums and have been looking after children for years. My own mum has been childminding for more than 15 years. Now she has to waste 2 hours of her limited free time being told how to look after kids.

Bleh, bit of a rant there but yeah, childminding isn't as cushy as it looks :D

SiriusB
 
Morba said:
from what I remember it was to do with the black sheep representing a black slave serving white people.
will have a look and see what i can find :]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/600470.stm - there is mention of the slavery in the quoted guidelines telling schools not to sing it.
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Hmm, nothing I found on slavery -
"This is not the first time, however, that the nursery rhyme — written in 1744 satirising the taxes imposed on wool exports — has fallen foul of political correctness."

From Wikipedia -
"This song was written to help children associate wool with the animal that produces it, and also the sound that a sheep would make. Baa Baa Black Sheep was first published in 1744. It probably dates back to the Middle Ages, possibly to the 13th Century, and relates to a tax imposed by the king on wool. One-third went to the local lord (the 'master'), one-third to the church (referred to as the 'dame') and about a third was for the farmer (the 'little boy who lives down the lane')."

And even the BBC themselves still have the proper version of the song:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/funandgames/baabaa.shtml

Maybe that is the actual problem in the first place then, that people have misrepresented the song as being a racial slur when it has nothing to do with them?
 
jas72 said:
What do they call a whiteboard then?
:rolleyes:
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An analogue display device. ;) Probably, although I've never looked into it. :)

It does seem rather stupid to decry a nursery rhyme but times do change and it is a private nursery so they are free to make any decision they choose (more or less) about what is or is not acceptable in their nursery, customers can vote with their feet here.
 
If you feel strongly enough about that, I would suggest moving your child to another nursary, and specifically citing the reason to their management.
 
Mr Mag00 said:
A classic case of a white middle class pen pusher telling us what the ethnic population of this country find offensive and avoiding future court cases but not actually looking at what they are changing, the impact of that change and how stupid it makes this country look.
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Quoted for absolute truth. Too many PC nutters thinking they are protecting the interests of people they choose to group and stereotype as minorities.
 
Can you not go and have a talk with the head about it?

I agree that it's a stupid thing to punish a child for, but leaving the school is a bit much isn't it? It seems like a lot of hassle on your part and (in my personal opinion) moving a child from the school they are settled in should only ever be a last resort.

I'm sure if you presented the background of the song to her (as posted here) and explained that for the money you pay for your child to be there, you don't expect your child to be chastised for singing an innocent nursery rhyme!

Panzer
 
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Pretty sure that rhyme has absolutely no racist connotations at all. It's pretty clear that it's about black sheep and not black people.
 
Panzerbjorn said:
Can you not go and have a talk with the head about it?

I agree that it's a stupid thing to punish a child for, but leaving the school is a bit much isn't it? It seems like a lot of hassle on your part and (in my personal opinion) moving a child from the school they are settled in, should only ever be a last resort.

I'm sure if you presented the background of the song to her (as posted here) and explained that for the money you pay for your child to be there, you don't expect your child to be chastised for singing an innocent nursery rhyme!

Panzer
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Agreed, and if that fails go to the newspapers - I would.
 
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