New PC Build - 4090

[oneilldo]

Following my comments on another thread (and borrowing most parts of someone else's intended build) https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/new-pc-build-4090.18974727/
I thought I would make my own regarding proposed PC build, use will be data engineering/SQL/development/running containers/VMs as well as games. Want it to last a good number of years without the need to upgrade or alter (hence consideration for 128GB RAM).

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Fractal Design Torrent Black RGB TG Light Tint Mid Tower Case (SKU: CA-09T-FD) = £229.99
• 1 x Corsair RMx Series RM1000x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (CP-9020201-UK) (SKU: CA-268-CS) = £179.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £419.99
• 1 x AMD - Starfield Ryzen Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-00523) = £0.00
• 1 x Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-5BB-GI) = £269.99
• 1 x Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Pure Black CPU Cooler with Dual 140m Fans (SKU: HS-03M-NC) = £109.99
• 1 x Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-1FC-GI) = £1,649.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C40 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK64GX5M2B5600Z40) (SKU: MY-4DL-CS) = £199.99
• 2 x Samsung 990 Pro 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe 1.3c Solid State Drive (SKU: HD-24R-SA) = £188.99
• 2 x Samsung 2TB 870 QVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 64 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-77Q2T0BW) (SKU: HD-244-SA) = £139.99

Total: £3,717.89 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

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Few queries would this case accommodate the CPU cooler and the graphics card without issue - I can see reviews for both commenting on size.
Do I need anything else -assume required cables/screws, thermal compound etc. will come with it?
Is it worth upping the Ram to 128GB from 64 GB.
I'll be running windows 11 pro.

 

[oneilldo]

For gaming I can't imagine you'd need 128gb RAM. Many people still use 16 and 32 is now the general do to.

Gigabyte cards have had some quality issues recently thus some people are avoiding them too.

Thanks - would I be better off going for the MSI one then

MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Ventus 3X OC 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card

Order MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Ventus 3X OC 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card now online and benefit from fast delivery.

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Assume again it would be ok in this case (and also with the CPU cooler)?

 

[oneilldo]

I thought how I could change your build to something nobody would like, so I chose an Asus motherboard * and the 7900X3D.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D Twelve Core 5.60GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DS-AM) = £499.99
• 1 x AMD - Starfield Ryzen Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-00523) = £0.00
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming X670E-Plus (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6JA-AS) = £299.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 64GB (2X32GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C40 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK64GX5M2B5600Z40) (SKU: MY-4DL-CS) = £199.99 - Unchanged
• 1 x Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-13E-ZT) = £1,499.99
• 2 x WD Black SN850X 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T2X0E) (SKU: HD-591-WD) = £134.99
• 2 x Seagate FireCuda 520 2TB SSD PCIe Gen4 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive (ZP2000GV3A012) (SKU: HD-3EX-SE) = £116.99
• 1 x Fractal Design Torrent Black RGB TG Light Tint Mid Tower Case (SKU: CA-09T-FD) = £229.99 - Unchanged
• 1 x Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1200W Fully Modular Native PCIE 5 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-1BG-TT) = £194.99
• 1 x Power Cable for Thermaltake GF3 850/1000/1200 Power supply (SKU: CB-000-TT) = £0.00

Total: £3,428.89 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Reasons:
CPU: Moar cores are betterer (specifically: the things you talk about doing, sound like they would like having them). I could have chosen the 7950X3D, which is less compromised than the 7900X3D, or the 7900 non-X, which is popular for efficiency, but I chose to retain the cache, for those circumstances where it will be a benefit and not bump up the price too much.
Motherboard: You get PCI-E 5.0 for graphics and 1 SSD, but I actually only chose this for 4 M.2 slots, so your QVO's could walk the plank.
SSDs: I don't know what your workload is like (in terms of bottlenecking with I/O), but the SN850X is a lot cheaper for a high-end PCI-E 4.0 drive right now and the QVO (review) is a QLC-based relic at this point that has no business being that kind of price (just a 3 year warranty, relatively poor performance and endurance).
GPU: only changed for the warranty.
PSU: this seems like the kind of build that could grow to a power hungry monster one day and I thought a 12/16 pin for the card would be handy rather than having to buy one, or have more spaghetti in your case.
Cooler: I'd buy this instead (under £50).



Should be fine, stuff to secure and power the drives will come with the case and motherboard. Cooler will come with a tube of paste (or pre-applied).



This was an early video, but you might still find value in watching it:

Is 128GB of DDR5 IMPOSSIBLE on AM5? Level1 Investigates!

Check out the forum thread here: https://forum.level1techs.com/t/7950x-i-want-4x32gb-unless-it-sucks-does-it-suck/189825**********************************Che...

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* This won't be a problem for your CPU, I think.

Thanks @Tetras for taking the time. Looks like a better overall option for workload. Higher boost and more cores will definitely suit SQL Server better.
I'm just wondering if just biting the bullet (as overall cost increase not massive at this stage) and going for the 7950X3D might well be the best option? - thoughts?
I'll take on board the changes from the samsung SSDs to the PCIe ones.
Do you know if I went with the 7950x whether it would suffer with slower bandwidth with 4x32Gb of Ram or not (if so might go 64GB and add more down the line when support is better).
The CPU cooler you linked to is performance on par with the Noctura (I'm keen to get most/all from OcUK).

Thanks for your help all