New PC Build

[Rincey4k]

Can anyone reccomend a new build PC & Monitor.

Required for gaming with longevity in mind. Nothing else, just gaming.
£1,600 budget. Would stretch to £1,850 if there's justification to,
I don't need an impercitiple imrpvement in FPS for an extra £100 but if it lasts a year or two longer I'd happy to pay a bit more.

A pre-built one would be preferred but I can build it myself so if I'll save £200 I'll do it myself, I've not built one for 10 years but used to do it often so sure I can manage.

Not looking to break any benchmarks or win any E-sports by the nano-second just a solid gaming PC that will last me as long as possible.
I'm thinking a 34" ultrawide for the monitor? I sit at arms length at a desk so that might be too big? Currently have dual 24"

 

[Tetras]

Prebuild suggestion:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x iiyama 32" GB3271QSU-B1 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz 1ms FreeSync Premium Widescreen LED Backlit Gaming Monit (SKU: MO-13Y-IY) = £319.99
• 1 x OcUK Gaming Oxygen - AMD Ryzen 5 7500F, GeForce RTX 4060Ti Gaming PC (SKU: FS-1BZ-OG) = £1,199.99
  • Case: 1 x SYSTEM OFFER - APNX Creator C1 Blue Mist Limited Edition Mid Tower Case
  • Memory: 1 x Kingston FURY Beast 16GB (2x8GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C40 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit
  • Graphics Card: 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4060Ti TUF OC 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card
  • M.2 Solid State Drive: 1 x WD Black SN770 500GB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS500G3X0E)
  • 2.5" Solid State Drive: 1 x Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 64 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-77Q1T0BW)
  • Operating System: 1 x Build Stock Microsoft Windows 11 Home Advanced - Systems

Total: £1,519.98 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

Change prebuild spec as follows:
- Upgrade to 32GB (+£40).
- Upgrade to 7800 XT (+£102).
- Upgrade to 2TB SSD (+£85)
- Remove 1TB SSD (-£80)
Total: £1347 (excluding monitor)
- With monitor: £1667.

 

[mickyflinn]

Oops

 

[Rincey4k]

Thanks chaps, super helpful x

 

[mickyflinn]

Self build top budget 4070ti super but closer to lower budget drop GPU to 4070syper non ti.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £349.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen - Space Marine & Unknown 9 Awakening Games Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-02908) = £0.00
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-E WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-02136) = £154.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF560C36BBEK2-32) (SKU: MY-29T-KS) = £104.99
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £109.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £99.95
• 1 x Antec C3 ARGB Midi Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02727) = £79.99
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 36 A-RGB 120m Black CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: COO-ARC-02418) = £29.99
• 1 x Gainward GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER Panther OC 16GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics (SKU: GRA-GNW-01536) = £749.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Star Wars: Outlaws Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03030) = £0.00
• 1 x LG 27" 27GR75Q-B 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz 1ms FreeSync/G-Sync Gaming Monitor (SKU: MON-LGC-00585) = £188.99

Total: £1,868.87 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[mickyflinn]

Thanks chaps, super helpful x

Redone build to accommodate monitor although 27" please refresh page and check again

 

[Gray2233]

M-ATX alternative build, but with a 7900XT instead of a 4070tiS:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £89.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £349.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen - Space Marine & Unknown 9 Awakening Games Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-02908) = £0.00
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 850W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02519) = £104.99
• 1 x Asrock B650M PG Riptide (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-18Y-AK) = £158.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02724) = £29.98
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £110.00
• 1 x Aerocool Dryft Mini v2 Micro-ATX Case (SKU: CAS-AER-00607) = £54.99
• 1 x Powercolor Radeon RX 7900 XT HellHound 20GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-1AR-PC) = £629.99
• 1 x AMD Radeon - Space Marine & Unknown 9 Awakening Games Bundle (SKU: DIG-AMD-02939) = £0.00
• 1 x AOC 34" CU34G2XP 3440x1440 IPS 180Hz 1ms FreeSync Curved Ultrawide Gaming Monitor (SKU: MON-AOC-02081) = £329.99

Total: £1,858.91 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

The 7900XT has more VRAM and is faster in rasterization while being £100 cheaper, although the 4070ti Super has better ray tracing and technology such as DLSS which many prefer to the AMD alternative of FSR. Depending on the games you play, one might be better than the other so it's worth reading up things regarding your favourite/most played titles.

There's some decent 34" ultrawides available for around the £300-400 mark which you'd have money left over for.

Edit: Included an ultrawide that has favourable reviews at the price point:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/1emp4pl/aoc_cu34g2xp_review_great_budget_ultrawide/

AOC CU34G2XP Review – INSANELY CHEAP 34” 180Hz Ultrawide Gaming Monitor | TechteamGB

This is AOC’s latest ultrawide gaming monitor, the CU34G2XP - not to be confused with the CU34G2X from 2020. This new “P” model sports a higher refresh rate at 180Hz, while still offering a 34” 1500R curved VA 3440x1440 panel. AOC claims a 1 millisecond response time - we’re gonna test that! As...

techteamgb.co.uk

 

[Rincey4k]

Thanks Gray for the alternative- is there a good list or article that articulates which games where AMD/nvidia outperforms/makes better use of the DLSS vs FSR or vice versa?

 

[Gray2233]

Thanks Gray for the alternative- is there a good list or article that articulates which games where AMD/nvidia outperforms/makes better use of the DLSS vs FSR or vice versa?

Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Review

The Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super is bizarrely named, but the specs look seriously great. We're talking 16GB of VRAM using AD103 silicon, indicating strong performance...

www.techspot.com

12 game average without RT at 1440P:

Spoiler

10 game average with RT at 1440P:

Spoiler

You can compare the two directly in this review at various resolutions for a number of games.

I do know that CoD (Warzone) heavily favours AMD over Nvidia, as do a few other titles so it really does depend on what you prefer to play.

Semi recent article on upscaling tech such as DLSS and FSR:

In 2024, there’s no contest between DLSS and FSR

Nvidia DLSS and AMD FSR are the two most prominent upscaling tools you'll find in games, but which is better? We put them head-to-head.

www.digitaltrends.com

Personally, I do prefer DLSS and find Nvidia's frame gen tech to be very good. However, I find the 4070ti Super a hard choice given it's a good £100 + more expensive than the 7900XT. There were some deals to be found recently that had 4070ti Supers for around the £650 mark, but I have no idea if they're still available.

 

[Craig_d1]

Sitting between the oxygen with 7800xt and 4070ti/7900xt. on @Gray2233 techspot the 1440p raster av was 127fps 7900xt , 120 fps 4070tisuper, 108 fps 4070super and 99 fps 7800xt. Turn on ray tracing though and 10 game av changes for 1440p to 4070tisuper 84 fps, 4070super 76fps, 7900xt 66fps and 7800xt 50fps.

Aldso need to consider some new games like Avatar and Star wars outlaws has rayracing baked in, which you can't turn off. that and dlss, I think you have to look very hard at the games you're going to play

If you dont want to build yourself, you can email a build to OCuk, and they'll build it for you..just bew aware their own prebuilds, they tend to put a crummy psu in(the oxygen is a bronze 750w with a a620 mobo...they charging too much i think), so I'd swap that out also

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Gainward GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Ghost 12GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-GNW-01534) = £518.99
• 1 x NVIDIA - Star Wars: Outlaws Game Bundle (SKU: DIG-NVI-03030) = £0.00
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 7600 Six Core 5.10GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DW-AM) = £179.99
• 1 x G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo EXPO RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-GSK-01356) = £124.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £99.95
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £109.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K0-AS) = £169.99
• 1 x Antec C3 ARGB Midi Tower - Black (SKU: CAS-ATC-02727) = £79.99
• 1 x LG 27" 27GR75Q-B 2560x1440 IPS 165Hz 1ms FreeSync/G-Sync Gaming Monitor (SKU: MON-LGC-00585) = £188.99
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 36 A-RGB 120m Black CPU Cooler - 2x 120mm (SKU: COO-ARC-02418) = £29.99

Total: £1,502.87 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

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