New PC - Dell?

kremedios · 16 Jun 2007 at 01:01

teaboy5 said:
Man you have changed your sig three times since you started this thread

hahah shhh

TheVoice · 16 Jun 2007 at 01:05

MRBARKER said:
I only find Dell are only good in the LapTop market , you would be better buying a PC from better place

For low- and mid-range PCs they're practically unbeatable though. My Mum just got one - Athlon64 X2 4000 1GB of RAM, 320GB HDD, Vista Home Premium and a 20" widescreen LCD for £352. Nice simple system for very little money.

But I do agree, for more-powerful machines, there are better options.

teaboy5 · 16 Jun 2007 at 01:09

steve258 said:
Yes but how about the PSU that might not be powerful enough for a next-gen graphics card? AFAIK some DELLs have dodgy spec PSUs that cannot be easily replaced by a normal retail one.

Some DELL cases are not even big enough for a full size top end GFX, plus you may also need to worry about cooling.

The nightmare begins the second you start upgrading a DELL.

Not really, there are many of their cares which are fine in size. But i agree with the PSU comment, you would need to make sure thats it good before you throw a 880 gts or gtx in there.

whitedragon · 16 Jun 2007 at 01:22

ok never ever ever ever buy a dell iv had a dell and they are a heap of junk {this is just my feeling on them } they use cheap parts build quality is bad they over heat so like iv said dont buy one

peetee · 16 Jun 2007 at 01:31

alienware will overclock, and come tweaked(if you pay the extra)
Thing about alienware..they are hideously overclocked, you pay for the novelty.
They look like toys to be honest too.
Buy a pre-build from ocuk or even off an auction site, aslong as u read up on the parts, as some are pretty shoddy components. Best sticking with ocuk pre-built

Jaffa_Cake · 16 Jun 2007 at 01:31

I had to snap part of the case off to take the CPU out on an old Dell.

The BIOS is overclocking locked.

Theres no drivers for the motherboards ( proper ones )

They will only give you the number of PCI/PCI-E slots that you would use when you order, so only 2 PCI slots if you order a soundcard/network card etc.

Just a few things you should know about Dell

lay-z-boy · 16 Jun 2007 at 01:43

Some retailers like dell don't solder a pci-e 16x slot to a mobo that has onboard vga and supports the 16x slot. *crys*

You cannot overclock any dell bar the XPS range, even that is rather limited.

Snapshot · 16 Jun 2007 at 07:07

One cannot buy a PC from any of the major manufacturers and expect to overclock it. I've bought literally hundreds of Dell PCs and servers for my employers over the years, have had very few problems and have had good customer service. I agree the Indian helpdesk for home users isn't as good as it should be be but, in general, the kit does what it's designed to do and does it well.

Edinho · 16 Jun 2007 at 12:58

Well if you know how to overclock surely you cant be that far away from knowing how to build one yourself? I would never buy a prebuild.

Alienware. I cant see the point in getting an uber machine like that and not having a clue on how it works and what parts are in it. The thrill of having a machine like that is in building it.

movingtables · 16 Jun 2007 at 13:26

Megahurtz400 said:
Tut tut. I would never buy a Dell but each to their own

i've just got myself a new laptop from dell. absolutely fantastic.

kremedios · 16 Jun 2007 at 13:43

Edinho said:
Well if you know how to overclock surely you cant be that far away from knowing how to build one yourself? I would never buy a prebuild.

Alienware. I cant see the point in getting an uber machine like that and not having a clue on how it works and what parts are in it. The thrill of having a machine like that is in building it.

I'm not that confident with putting in the PSU, CPU and Mobo. Is there any easy guide to do this??

lay-z-boy · 16 Jun 2007 at 13:47

The users manual you get with motherboards is very helpful when it comes to building, you also have us lot at ocuk to help you.

whitedragon · 16 Jun 2007 at 16:21

movingtables said:
i've just got myself a new laptop from dell. absolutely fantastic.

give it time it will go rong and start over heating trust me i had the inspiron 9100 witch is now dead and in bits in my room

movingtables · 16 Jun 2007 at 16:58

whitedragon said:
give it time it will go rong and start over heating trust me i had the inspiron 9100 witch is now dead and in bits in my room

well I hope your "wrong" obviously".
It's a bit like someone who buys a Ford Focus, some will say fantastic cars and some will say terrible. Maybe you was unlucky an got a lemon.
If all Dells ended up like yours then they wouldnt be in business still surely.
With your sweeping comments you sound like you hate anything popular and the kind of person who hates Microsoft and wish's Bill Gates to burn in Hell.

peetee · 16 Jun 2007 at 17:05

whitedragon said:
give it time it will go rong and start over heating trust me i had the inspiron 9100 witch is now dead and in bits in my room

didnt it have warranty? Surely if it was past its warranty you should have installed something that could tell you coretemps(do dells mobos support this?) so you knew when it needed a can of compressed air to shift the dust?

whitedragon · 16 Jun 2007 at 17:21

movingtables said:
well I hope your "wrong" obviously".
It's a bit like someone who buys a Ford Focus, some will say fantastic cars and some will say terrible. Maybe you was unlucky an got a lemon.
If all Dells ended up like yours then they wouldnt be in business still surely.
With your sweeping comments you sound like you hate anything popular and the kind of person who hates Microsoft and wish's Bill Gates to burn in Hell.

i dont hate microsoft and i dont hate any think popular i just dont want some one to waste they cash on some think when they can do better . i hope that your new laptop works fine for you

Edinho · 16 Jun 2007 at 18:03

kremedios said:
I'm not that confident with putting in the PSU, CPU and Mobo. Is there any easy guide to do this??

Well if I can do it im sure you can. Unless your a complete idiot with absolutely no common sense and dont even know how to wire a 3pin plug, then stay away. Just google it will bring a load of sites up I think Tomshardware.com has a place for building. Just look around and look on techy forums.

It really is easy, plus you'll get to know when something goes wrong with it what is wrong with it.

See this sticky and read through it. http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17530296

TheVoice · 16 Jun 2007 at 18:57

whitedragon said:
give it time it will go rong and start over heating trust me i had the inspiron 9100 witch is now dead and in bits in my room

I've had my 630m for over a year. Not a single problem with it so far. Just because you've had problems doesn't change the fact that most people haven't.

Namsnik · 16 Jun 2007 at 19:48

I'm not that confident with putting in the PSU, CPU and Mobo. Is there any easy guide to do this??

So long as you curb your impatience and take your time then you can do it, I feel sure.
The PSU is really not a problem - the connectors can't be fitted the wrong way round or anything.
The CPU and Mobo are, I agree, more of a worry for a first timer as the CPU has to be handled carefully. Whilst I have installed hard drives, memory and cards before, I have always purchased pe-assembled mobo / CPUs - until a month ago...
I recently purchased a DS3 and C2D processor. The instructions were suprisingly clear and in good English (not sure that is true of all mobos!). If you have any problems then I am absolutely sure that folk on this forum would be happy to help.
I found the most difficult bit was connecting the heatsink and fan.
One bit of advice: -Never connect the PSU to the mains until you are sure that you have everything assembled.

whitedragon · 16 Jun 2007 at 20:09

TheVoice said:
I've had my 630m for over a year. Not a single problem with it so far. Just because you've had problems doesn't change the fact that most people haven't.

thats very true but i did put this in my post at the start {this is just my feeling on them} if yours works well then fine grate no drama