New PC help.

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Hi folks,

At the moment I'm playing an MMo called RIFT; my computer is about a year a little bit old and ive added a few things to it, but it really lags badly ingame with low fps and its terrible for my gaming experience. I have to make sure all my graphics are really low and even then when lots of things are going on and the loading its pretty bad.

The system I have at the moment is: (Specs)

AMD Anthlon 2 - 2.8Ghz x4 2MB Cache
6GB RAM
Standard HD
SSD Vertex 2 80GB
OCZ 600W Power supply
Radeon HD 6870 1GB DDR5 Ram

I've added RAM to it in the past year, and the GPU is pretty new - but after i bought it i was told by some friends that Nvidia is better and they woukd never buy a radeon. at this point i cursed a lot.

They also said that an Intel is a far better CPU to have and it would be better for the gaming experience as they sponsor the gaming companies to make it more compatible with their products and AMD are the cheap version(s). they reccommended the I5 as appose to the I7 because theres not much difference when it comes to value for money.

I've been looking around to see what I could find but to be fair my search isn't going very well - I was just wondering if you guys had any thoughts or reccommendations on possible systems? the computer is solely for gaming purposes, and if possible i would like to be able to play RIFT on high graphics with no problems at all. I was looking at Alienware but I imagen you could probably get just as good for cheaper or a similar price perhaps?

Price range is around £900 - £1000, just so you know - less is fine!! you dont have to spend that much! :) I have my own 25 inch monitor so thats not necessary, just the pc alone would be great.

thanks guys hope to hear back soon,

James
 
Sounds like your friends are nVIdia fans boys.
As far as graphics are concerned the 2 companies both make decent cards. the 6870 is a very good mid range card.
nVidia's version is the 560Ti which beats if only slightly.

At the moment intel do do the best CPU's. AMD have been promising Bulldozer for a while but we haven't got a release date yet.

What resolution does your monitor run @?
Do you need and operating system?

If you didn't need one:

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 570 OC Twin FrozR III Power Edition 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £259.99
1 x Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £169.98
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £159.98
1 x Silverstone Raven 2 RV02B Full Tower Case - Black £129.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive ** Pre-Order price ** £77.99
1 x Lepa B-Series 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply £74.98
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £57.59
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £44.99
1 x Samsung SH-S222AL/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Lightscribe ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £1,008.97 (includes shipping : £13.75).

 
Your 6870 is fine. It's not the best gfx card out there, but it's decent enough for the money and should run modern games on reasonable settings. Nvidia is not better than ATI - they both make good cards, and sometimes one is better than the other for each specific game. I think Rift MAY be slightly better on an Nvidia, but the difference isn't huge.

I think your problem is your CPU - rift is very CPU intensive because of the complexity of it, expecially in the main city.

A very cheap, and very good upgrade would go something like this:
Intel 2500k
Any reasonable CPU air cooler
A 2nd 6870 gfx card
a Crossfire capable Mobo

You could then Crossfire your cards if you know how? You should also modestly overclock the 2500k - it's very easy with minimal effort. I know, I've just done it!

This would be way below your budget and give a massive boost to performance.

Also there's the stuff that goes without saying: make sure your drivers are up to date, don't run programs in the background etc etc.
 
Sounds like your friends are nVIdia fans boys.
As far as graphics are concerned the 2 companies both make decent cards. the 6870 is a very good mid range card.
nVidia's version is the 560Ti which beats if only slightly.

At the moment intel do do the best CPU's. AMD have been promising Bulldozer for a while but we haven't got a release date yet.

What resolution does your monitor run @?
Do you need and operating system?

If you didn't need one:

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 570 OC Twin FrozR III Power Edition 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £259.99
1 x Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £169.98
1 x Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £159.98
1 x Silverstone Raven 2 RV02B Full Tower Case - Black £129.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive ** Pre-Order price ** £77.99
1 x Lepa B-Series 750W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply £74.98
1 x Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9) £57.59
1 x Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD103SJ) £44.99
1 x Samsung SH-S222AL/BEBE 22x DVD±RW SATA Lightscribe ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £1,008.97 (includes shipping : £13.75).


much of that really not needed, graphics card, ssd(already has one), case(unless the op wants an upgrade of the current one), optical drive(can reuse from current pc), hd(unlless they want moe storage, psu(unless they go xfire)

as psamiad said i2500k, a motherboard(the asrock extreme4 ge3 seems to be the in favour at the moment), ram(4gb is plenty but current prices may as well get 8gb) and a 2nd 6870 if you so wish(but would require a new psu).
 
Yeah, if you want to also keep your PSU, you could go with the MSI 570 gfx card as suggested, and then just sell your 6870 on a popular auction site.
 
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