new ram help!!

grantsmith82

grantsmith82

grantsmith82

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hi all
i received today my new ram
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-060-GS

i got 2 of these kits (so 4 x 4gb) and i have a asrock fatal1ty m/b

however using 3 sticks works fine recoginse 12gb and boots etc.

however when putting the 4th stick in the pc wont boot etc ive tried swapping the chips and using different slots (so i know all chips are ok and all slots are ok) why is my pc having an issue with the 4th stick of ram ??
 
Is the 2600K overclocked?

If it is knock it back to stock settings as an aggressive clock can affect the stability when using all the DIMM slots.

Also, how did you set up the memory in the BIOS - did you use auto, XMP or did you set the timings, frequency and voltage manually?

If you didn't set the inputs manually i would try this first - as well as deleting any clock until you get things stable (if you can get things stable).
 
Those timings are loose compared to the memory's official spec - so you may not be any better off with the manual settings.

Having said that i would still enter the correct settings manually as it's best practice - they're as follows using your list from above:
  • Command rate 2n
  • Tras. 24
  • Trcd 9
  • Trp. 9
  • Cas (tlc) 9
  • Frequency ddr3 1600
  • And don;t forget to set the voltage manually to 1.5V

Once you've input the settings i would test all 4 sticks again. If they still fail i would then memtest the memory in pairs for a few hours each. If one pair fails then test each stick separatly to identify the faulty stick.

If they all pass memtest at the correct settings then you may need to try tweaking the BIOS some more - but there's no guarantee you'll get all 4 sticks working...
 
hi well i changed the settings made no difference... :(
what i have noticed tho is that the gskill ram chip does not detect in slot one. tried different chips all the same but they all recognise in slots 2,3 & 4. (when i had chips in 1,2,3 it just detected single channel mode (and didnt see the chip in slot 1)
now the ram i use to have in was 6gb (3 x2gb chips) of patriot ddr3 1600 pvt36g1600elk ( ithink it was tri) anyway putting that into slot 1 with the gskill in 2,3,4, it detected it (so i had 14gb in total 2gb,4gb,4gb,4gb)
so that eliminates a fault with the slot and a fault with a particular chip so what on earth is wrong with it ??? accarding to asrock website/ mb manual this exact module of gskill ram is supported (upto 4 chips) so im at a loss
 
From your desription it would seem that your MB, for whatever reason, doesn't like the gskill in slot 1.

It may be a volatge issue - i.e. slot 1 isn't getting the amount of juice required run the gskill - or it may be that the gskill isn't able to make full contact with that particular slot.

You could try upping the voltage slightly with one stick of gskill and try and get the stick to be recognised - but note you technically void your warrranty (but for testing purposes i don't see this as a problem).

As for 'contact testing' you will need to examine slot 1 and compare it with the other slots. It may be that it has a small amount of debris in it or a 'post manufacturing mark' that is stopping full contact.
 
hi plec. i tried another brand of ram in slot one and that works fine
if i was to amend the voltage what do you suggest i should put it upto? i dont see on my m/b menu option to amend voltage on each individual slot. it is on 1.5v

are you saying if i increase it i void warrenty? can they tell if voltage been increased?
 
grantsmith82 said:
hi plec. i tried another brand of ram in slot one and that works fine
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Great - what's the new stick's settings does it match the g.skill?

Have you tried it with the g.skill?

grantsmith82 said:
if i was to amend the voltage what do you suggest i should put it upto? i dont see on my m/b menu option to amend voltage on each individual slot. it is on 1.5v
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If the new stick has similar/same settings as your G.skill you may not need to amend the voltages/settings (and note that a voltage change will effect all the DIMM slots.)

Your g.skill settings are below, be sure to set the memory timings to the slacker option so that the sticks will work together - e.g. if the new stick has timings of 7-7-7-20 make sure you use the 9-9-9-24 of the g.skill etc...

  • Command rate 2n
  • Tras. 24
  • Trcd 9
  • Trp. 9
  • Cas (tlc) 9
  • Frequency ddr3 1600
  • And don;t forget to set the voltage manually to 1.5V


grantsmith82 said:
are you saying if i increase it i void warrenty? can they tell if voltage been increased?
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Yes and no, overvolting your memory (like overvolting a CPU) technically voids your warranty but if your memory dies while being 'slightly' overvolted you could still return it.
 
i just tried some kingston ram today and no difference
a single chip works fine in slot 2,3,4 but in slot 1 no boot
3 chips fine in slot 2,3,4
4 chips in slot 1,2,3,4 no boot
2 chips in slot 1,3 = single channel only detecting slot 3

but putting the 2gb chip of patriot ram in slot one detects it fine. so thinking there def issue with slot 1 not liking anything over 2gb.

really peeing me off now.
(gonna have quite a bit of ram to sell soon) lol :(
 
tried the below settings

Command rate 2n
Tras. 24
Trcd 9
Trp. 9
Cas (tlc) 9
Frequency ddr3 1600
And don;t forget to set the voltage manually to 1.5V



same result however under voltage i have the following in the bios
CPU core voltage +1.184v
DRAM voltage 1.500v
PCH voltage 1.059v
CPU Pull voltage 1.832v
VTT voltage 1.0511

these look right?
 
Settings look normal.

Will the computer recognise the Patriot memory in slot 1 with the g.skill installed in 2,3 and 4?

Hvae you tried testing one stick of g.skill in slot 1 over 1.5v - e.g. 1.6v?
 
Glad to read that you got it sorted - it certainly was giving every indication of a MB fault.

How did you finally decduce that it was the motherboard fault or did you decide to take an educated guess (we all do it)?
 
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