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coco777

coco777

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Hi peeps,
looking for a new rig, my old rig is 10 yrs old running i7 @ 2.93GHz and struggles editing 4k.

I have been looking around and found the following..

RENDA G6-CS Photography & Graphic Design Workstation - Intel Core i9KS
  • 1x Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (Black)
  • 1x *Build Stock* EVGA RTX 3070Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING 8GB Graphics Card
  • 1x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive
  • 1x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State Drive
  • 1x WD 2TB Black HDD 7200RPM 64MB Cache Internal Performance Hard Drive (WD2003FZEX)
  • 1x Microsoft Windows 11 Home 64-Bit DVD - OEM (KW9-00632)

£3,151.98
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RENDA G6-CS Photography & Graphic Design Workstation - Intel Core i9KS

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The only thing i want to change is the DDR4 to DDR5, but it doesn't have that option under upgrades. Would the motherboard need to be changed to fit DDR5 RAM ?

Thanks for any help, it's invaluable to me.
 
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The OCUK configurators are very limited once you are looking at DDR5 systems. If you want to go DDR5 then yes you do need a different motherboard.

Your requirements are Nv gpu for cuda cores ? Is the 8gb on the 3070ti a problem for the programmes you use ? 2x PCIE 4 for file transfer speeds ? Is Intel a must or would an AMD 7950x be better suited for your needs? If these are not the case then think about what you actually do need.


My advice is to make a basket of components and ring up OCUK and see if they will build you a custom system from your basket with a builders fee added on. The configurators are far too limiting and will always be something you want different.

Example basket.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £3,156.71 (includes delivery: £15.90)​



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The case is just a placeholder so get whatever one you need, not sure if you actually need drive bays or not. You can save £200 by dropping to 13700k and save another £200 on motherboard, the motherboard I put in is on preorder but is the one I would trust if I had to build this type of system. PSU is also overkill for your needs but only £50 to be saved there.
 
Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 Full Tower Case Closed Window Satin Black
CA-0A9-PT
£140 (incl. VAT)
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Intel Core i9-13900KF (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail
CP-6B6-IN
£473 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WIFI (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
MB-36V-MS
£300 (incl. VAT)
FREE DELIVERY
Find out more
Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit DVD - OEM (FQC-10528)
SW-18K-MS
£150 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
Haz123 said:
The OCUK configurators are very limited once you are looking at DDR5 systems. If you want to go DDR5 then yes you do need a different motherboard.

Your requirements are Nv gpu for cuda cores ? Is the 8gb on the 3070ti a problem for the programmes you use ? 2x PCIE 4 for file transfer speeds ? Is Intel a must or would an AMD 7950x be better suited for your needs? If these are not the case then think about what you actually do need.


My advice is to make a basket of components and ring up OCUK and see if they will build you a custom system from your basket with a builders fee added on. The configurators are far too limiting and will always be something you want different.

Example basket.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £3,156.71 (includes delivery: £15.90)​

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The case is just a placeholder so get whatever one you need, not sure if you actually need drive bays or not. You can save £200 by dropping to 13700k and save another £200 on motherboard, the motherboard I put in is on preorder but is the one I would trust if I had to build this type of system. PSU is also overkill for your needs but only £50 to be saved there.
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Thanks for that really helpful advice.

I use Prem Pro, Bridge, Photoshop, Lightroom, Photomatix.

I have had intel and nv for the last 10 years, but i just want what is optimal for my budget, so if that means changing to amd and cuda, then thats fine.
 
Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 Full Tower Case Closed Window Satin Black
CA-0A9-PT
£140 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
Intel Core i9-13900KF (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail
CP-6B6-IN
£473 (incl. VAT)
Find out more
MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WIFI (LGA 1700) DDR5 ATX Motherboard
MB-36V-MS
£300 (incl. VAT)
FREE DELIVERY
Find out more
Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit DVD - OEM (FQC-10528)
SW-18K-MS
£150 (incl. VAT)
Find out more

Anyone have experience with Renda G6-CS with the Intel i9-KS?

Hi All, I'm interested in purchasing an OcUK Pre-Built System and would welcome any advice from those with more experience than me. My days of gaming are alas over and the old machine is no longer keeping up. The most power intensive tasks I now use the PC for are Photo Editing - mainly with...
forums.overclockers.co.uk forums.overclockers.co.uk

Have a read of this thread, it's basically the same topic as this one so should be useful
 
My suggestion:

Intel Core i5-13600K (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail - £339.95
MSI Pro Z690-A WIFI DDR4 - Intel Z690 DDR4 ATX Motherboard - £229.99
Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (Black) - £199.99

Phanteks AMP 750W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply - £110.00
Phanteks Eclipse P600S Glass Silent Midi Tower Case - Gunmetal Grey - £152.99
Alpenfohn Glacier Water 360 High Speed ARGB CPU Water Cooler - 360mm - £129.95

WD Black SN850X 1TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2X0E) - £89.98
2x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) - £129.95

Asus GeForce RTX 3060 Dual V2 OC LHR 12GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card - £389.99

Microsoft Windows 11 Pro 64-Bit DVD - OEM (FQC-10528) - £164.98

Grand Total: £2,083.62

I've gone with the 13600K because it performs really well in productivity (both single and multi, though Adobe programs tend to be single). The 13700K has 2 more P-cores (same 8 E-cores) and the 13900K also has 2 more P-cores, but 16 E-cores. If you're waiting around for stuff to complete a lot, then the 16 E-cores might be worth it, I just consider the 13600K the best value and probably optimal for most users of Adobe programs (going by the benchmarks anyhow). I would avoid -F models for your usage too, unless you're sure it won't apply (video explanation).

There doesn't seem to be much benefit from DDR5 in most workloads (video) and filling the board often seems more problematic than DDR4, so I've just stuck with it.

I've chosen overkill case and cooler because if you're pegging the CPU for long periods, I think the additional airflow and the ability to slow things down (for quiet) will be beneficial in a workstation.

I don't know what kind of ratio of fast/slow storage you need, but I've assumed you'd do most of your current work on the SN850X and then push it to the SN770s. HDDs can still make sense if you need the longer-term storage for your projects, but not the speed.

I'm not sure if you do much work that relies on the graphics card (my understanding is that there are specific tasks/features in Adobe programs that are GPU accelerated), so I've just gone with a 3060 for the memory and in the puget benches, the 3060 Ti generally way outperformed the price (in comparison to AMD's cards), so I assume the 3060 would be competitive as well. There have been a lot of driver updates recently, so I'm not sure if that's still true, but in the past nvidia had better support and optimisation for workstation usage.

My understanding is that the 4090 has improved the productivity performance considerably (article), so that might apply to all 40xx cards but I haven't really had chance to check that out yet. I'd be surprised if it was enough to make it worth buying a 4080/4090, but eh, sometimes these things can shave hours if they've improved exactly what you spend most of your time waiting for.
 
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I am not absolutely sure what they would charge but you also have to consider you get a warrantly with it as well. It may be a flat fee like £200 or it could be percentage based on cost of components , so 10% for £300 fee. The only way to know is to ring them up and ask if they are willing to do it.

The other option is to spec up a prebuild and ask them if they will do minor alterations such as a different PSU brand.

We are just forum members and can in no way shape or form bind OCUK and the only way you will know for sure is if you ask them.
 
Haz123 said:
I am not absolutely sure what they would charge but you also have to consider you get a warrantly with it as well. It may be a flat fee like £200 or it could be percentage based on cost of components , so 10% for £300 fee. The only way to know is to ring them up and ask if they are willing to do it.

The other option is to spec up a prebuild and ask them if they will do minor alterations such as a different PSU brand.

We are just forum members and can in no way shape or form bind OCUK and the only way you will know for sure is if you ask them.
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Cheers. Yeah i have already asked for a quote, waiting for a reply, i wouldn't pay £300 that's for sure, do it myself if they charge silly money, i don't need a warranty.
 
After all that, they wont accept Paypal credit payment for a custom quote, i like using paypal credit as i don't have to pay anything for 4 months, then when the 4 months is up i just pay it off in one go before they charge interest. I can't believe they wont take the paypal payment for a custom quote, they will lose money as i will now go elsewhere, probably scancouk and self build.
 
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