New rig for dad is ordered!

geeza · 7 Mar 2006 at 12:05

CA-048-AN Antec SLK3800BUK Black Quiet Midi Tower Case - 400W SmartPower PSU (CA-048-AN) 1
£51.95 £51.95

MY-008-GS G.Skill 2GB DDR HZ PC4000 (2x1GB) CAS3 Dual Channel Kit (F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ) (MY-008-GS) 1
£129.95 £129.95

CD-068-SA Samsung SH-W162C 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) (CD-068-SA) 1
£22.50 £22.50

MB-120-AS Asus A8N5X nForce4 (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-120-AS) 1
£51.95 £51.95

GX-055-PC PowerColor ATI Radeon X800 GTO16 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-055-PC) 1
£104.95 £104.95

KB-011-LG Logitech Internet Pro Keyboard (Black) - OEM (KB-011-LG) 1
£8.95 £8.95

Subtotal £370.25
VAT £64.80
Total £435.05

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Parts from elsewhere
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Opteron 146 & Arctic cooler64 pro £136.77
17" Viewsonic Premium TFT - VA702 £131 (£143 with delivery)

I think ive made the right choice getting the opteron instead of the retail venice as it was only £20 more for an extra 800mhz and 1meg cache

Im also swapping my 2gb geil value for the Gskill HZ and giving him a 160gb hard drive i have spare

Jamie1984 · 7 Mar 2006 at 15:09

nice swap, does your dad realise you're diddling him out of some better memory? hehe

KizZ · 7 Mar 2006 at 15:48

Nice spec. Does he play a lot of games?

geeza · 7 Mar 2006 at 17:10

he doesnt play many but he used to really enjoy soldier of fortune 2. he watched me play COD2 for a bit and decided he wanted it.

Im not really diddling him because mine did cost me £160 anyway and a 160gb hard drive would cost more than £50 (i think) that the memory is over some ocuk value. plus geil value is quite good anyway. everyones a winner!

oh and im building it for him aswell!

loltim · 7 Mar 2006 at 17:14

You have a cool dad, mine can't even use MS paint

Explicit · 7 Mar 2006 at 17:49

Tim said:
You have a cool dad, mine can't even use MS paint

lol, I was thinking the same...

MuSsEr · 7 Mar 2006 at 18:26

is it me being blind or have you not got your dad a processor to go with all that? or is he using his old one? if so, what is it?

Explicit · 7 Mar 2006 at 18:49

MuSsEr said:
is it me being blind or have you not got your dad a processor to go with all that? or is he using his old one? if so, what is it?

You being blind I'm afraid

Opty 146 from somewhere else

MuSsEr · 7 Mar 2006 at 18:59

ah ye i see

but why u getttin your dad an opty 146? theyr only good if u overclock em loads and is he really gona do that?

BigDom · 7 Mar 2006 at 19:25

MuSsEr said:
ah ye i see

but why u getttin your dad an opty 146? theyr only good if u overclock em loads and is he really gona do that?

Not strictly true, an Opty 146 is a damned good CPU even without clocking.. although quite where the OP think's he's getting +800Mhz from I'm not sure.... the Venice 3200 is 2ghz... and so is the 146.. the 146 is effectivly about 200mhz quicker and runs cooler so is a nice buy for the price but not massivly quicker.

geeza · 7 Mar 2006 at 21:38

BigDom said:
Not strictly true, an Opty 146 is a damned good CPU even without clocking.. although quite where the OP think's he's getting +800Mhz from I'm not sure.... the Venice 3200 is 2ghz... and so is the 146.. the 146 is effectivly about 200mhz quicker and runs cooler so is a nice buy for the price but not massivly quicker.

It will be when i overclock it for him when i build it

BigDom · 7 Mar 2006 at 22:10

geeza said:
It will be when i overclock it for him when i build it

Still won't be 800mhz quicker.. a Venice will go to 2.6 pretty much guaranteed.

*points at sig.. which is actually slightly inaccurate as it's running at 2.65 now*

MuSsEr · 7 Mar 2006 at 23:47

146 is 2ghz stock, you can get 800mhz or more on it with air so hes not lieing, if he gets a good chip

BigDom · 8 Mar 2006 at 00:03

MuSsEr said:
146 is 2ghz stock, you can get 800mhz or more on it with air so hes not lieing, if he gets a good chip

Point is you can get at least 600 out of a venice... so in fact it's 200mhz for £20 not 800

loltim · 8 Mar 2006 at 00:18

Opterons have twice the cache of a Venice though.

BigDom · 8 Mar 2006 at 00:24

Tim said:
Opterons have twice the cache of a Venice though.

I know - which is worth about 200mhz.. point I was trying to make was that there isn't 800mhz difference between the two.. the MAX you can argue is 400mhz and quite probably a rig that manages 800 out of a opty will get close to that out of a venice too.

geeza · 8 Mar 2006 at 10:24

BigDom said:
Still won't be 800mhz quicker.. a Venice will go to 2.6 pretty much guaranteed.

*points at sig.. which is actually slightly inaccurate as it's running at 2.65 now*

strange how cpuZ tells me its at 2.8ghz (as does every other program) so why is it 2.65?

Anyway I went for the Opteron and arctic cooler because its twice the cache, most places sell them for a lot more than I got it for. Plus the place no longer has them for sale, so they must be good if they are flying off the shelves!

BigDom · 8 Mar 2006 at 10:33

geeza said:
strange how cpuZ tells me its at 2.8ghz (as does every other program) so why is it 2.65?

Anyway I went for the Opteron and arctic cooler because its twice the cache, most places sell them for a lot more than I got it for. Plus the place no longer has them for sale, so they must be good if they are flying off the shelves!

Point I was making was that the 146 is the SAME base clock speed as a 3200+ Venice. Saying the 146 is 800mhz for £20 more is completely wrong. You argued that you where overclocking to which I pointed out that the Venice cores overclock well too. So best case is an EFFECTIVE 400Mhz difference and being honest it's probably nearer 200-300.

I backed this up by pointing out that my 3500+ Venice ( same core as the 3200+ remember ) is running at 2.65Ghz.. so a 146 if it did indeed hit 1.8 would be running just 150mhz more.. effectivly about 300-350more.

Reason I'm trying to point this out is someone who may not know much about CPU's may also buy a 146 and find themselves disapointed.

In summary a 146 is 2Ghz Stock (effectively a 3400+), capable of around 2.8-3Ghz typically.
A 3200+ Venice is 2Ghz Stock, capable of around 2.6-2.8Ghz typically.

geeza · 8 Mar 2006 at 10:47

BigDom said:
I backed this up by pointing out that my 3500+ Venice ( same core as the 3200+ remember ) is running at 1.65Ghz.. so a 146 if it did indeed hit 1.8 would be running just 150mhz more.. effectivly about 300-350more.

My Opteron has hit 2.8ghz though not 1.8!! id be devistated if it only hit 1.8

(the venice 3500 cost more than i could get a 146 for anyway)

anyway, he'll like the system im sure

BigDom · 8 Mar 2006 at 11:08

geeza said:
My Opteron has hit 2.8ghz though not 1.8!! id be devistated if it only hit 1.8

(the venice 3500 cost more than i could get a 146 for anyway)

anyway, he'll like the system im sure

hehe oops bad typo there - lol, was just trying to clarify what the situation was. The Venice 3200 clocks as well as a 3500 - just used my own 3500 to back up what I was saying.