New Rig Planning

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About four and a half years ago I set out on an adventure. I'd spent a couple of months looking up components and putting together dream builds for a new PC. The sort of thing an 18 year old would do. Then I got myself a job... and suddenly I was facing the prospect of actually being able to build that dream PC.

I spent six weeks pouring over possible combinations of parts and learning the black art of overclocking. Juggling performance and cost to find the perfect balance. I had help from forums and articles - and boy did I need that help! And then I got my paycheck and I took the plunge.

Best purchase of my entire life. Not that it worked straight away mind you. I had to get the RAM replaced. That was agony at the time, but I've since witnessed a friend have to RMA three mainboards, and now a duff stick of RAM doesn't scare me at all...

Anyway I always had in mind for that PC to last four years. Two years and then upgrade, then two years and replace. It's been four years. I've been through University and have myself a good job. The taxman is cutting me a break for a few months (I'll pay for that later no doubt) and so I find myself only a month away from an entirely new rig!

So here's the rub. I'm a bit rusty and have no intention of buying anything until I am certain the build is powerful, compatible and future-proof. I'm looking for feedback, suggestions and answers. And yes, if I can I intend to buy everything from Overclockers. It was Overclockers who recommended the Antec 900 to me all those years ago and they even delivered it in person. All my upgrades have been bought from here since. My loyalty is unwavering!

So now for the juicy bit. What I'm currently eyeing up. So, to the build!

Mainboard
EVGA Classified 3 Intel X58​
£299.98​
Processor
Intel Core i7 930​
£199.99​
Heatsink
Thermalright Venomous X Black Edition​
£45.98​
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 6GB DDR3 1600MHz​
£74.99​
Graphics Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 570 Classified​
£311.99​
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer​
£71.99​
Power Supply
Corsair Enthusiast Series TX 650 V2​
£62.99​
Storage
Corsair Force GT 60GB​
£109.99​
Storage
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB​
£72.98​
Optical Drive
Sony Optiarc AD-7280S​
£17.99​
Case
Antec Dark Fleet Series DF35 Gaming Enclosure​
£86.99​
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit​
£79.99​
Grand Total
£1,435.85​

I'll go into a little detail now on why I've chosen these parts.

For the processor I'm doing what I did last time. Go for the low end of the high end (that would be the 930 in the i7 line) and overclock. You get the performance of the more expensive chips for half the price. My initial thoughts for the overclock are to get the base clock at 160. 3.36GHz is more than good enough for me, and at that speed the memory (@1600MHz) can sit at a 2:10 ratio, which seems nice to me.

I always try to go with EVGA where I can so both the mainboard and the graphics card are by them. With the mainboard it's a case of get the best on offer (that isn't a dual processor board!). With the GTX 570... I'd prefer to spend less, but the GTX 560Ti is quite a drop in performance. About 15% from what I read in reviews.

Memory has to match the processor. I think 1600MHz works out best in this case. I've gone with corsair because I've never had a problem with them in the past and I like the look of their sticks.

The sound card is an area where I am very open to suggestions. I don't know a lot about sound cards. I want one because I know there is a difference in sound quality. It's just what to get that troubles me...

The power supply is the most important part of the build. Having said that I am not going to get stupid with it. I'm not planning SLI or crazy overclocks so I do not need a massive power supply. I'm currently using a 600W supply and I figure the 650 from corsair will easily handle this build.

Storage... now this is probably the area I am most interested in hearing peoples opinions. I have two ideas regarding storage at the moment. My first idea was to have an SSD for Windows and two HDDs. One for users and programs, the other for games. Then I came across the Caviar drive I've listed above. My current idea is the have the SSD for Windows and split the HDD into three partitions. One for users/data, one for programs and one for games. I'm thinking a 200/200/600 split.

What do you guys think? I would configure windows to default to the new partitions for users and the like of course.

Lastly we come to the case. Another area where I really want feedback and suggestions. I already mentioned I have a 900. It's a wonderful case. But it does have one horrible flaw... dust. I dare not open my case now. I gave up keeping it clean years ago.

So for my next case my two primary concerns are airflow and dust. The DF35 looks about the same as the 900. Same size, same fan layout. It comes with filters on the front intakes though, which I really like.

I am open to suggestions on alternative cases however. It's an area I don't have much knowledge of. I don't have a problem going for a full tower if that is the best option, but the 900 size is my preference. It's a bit easier for taking to LAN parties. We all love LAN parties, right?

Anyway I've written loads. Thank you for reading it. Your opinions are really appreciated!

P.S. The price must not go over £1,500. That's my maximum. If I can get it down to £1,200 for the same performance (or thereabouts) that would be ideal.
 
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x58 will soon be replaced with x79 and the new generation of sandybridge-e cpu's, so either do as the guys above have said and go with an i5 2500k/i7 2600k or (if you want low end of the high end stuff) wait a couple of months and go with a low end sandybridge-e x79 chip, the i7 3820 4-core is meant to be released at roughly the same price as the i7 2600k.
 
This is why I posted here. I'd totally missed that Sandybridge was so much better. I've revised the build based on that to this:

Mainboard
Asus Maximus IV Extreme-Z Intel Z68​
£299.99​
Processor
Intel Core i5-2500K​
£163.99​
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 1600MHz​
£83.99​

I'm not sold on the motherboard however. It's a very important part of the build and has to last four years at least (still be good in four years time). Ergo I look straight away at the expensive boards with all the features. I'm going to do more research to see if I'm being silly. Suggestions are still welcome.

I looked at the i7 2600K and it seems from what I've read that an overclocked i5 2500K is just as good or thereabouts, so I can save money there. I'll probably aim to get it to 4GHz, maybe more depending on temperatures. Anandtech got 5GHz out of it on air cooling.

Switching mainboards has moved me back to dual channel. I don't like the idea of going backwards, but dual channel does let me have an extra 2GB. Apparently two sticks is better than four (in terms of memory address overhead, or something) so I went for 2x4GB.
 
Good call on sandybridge, the 2500k is a very nice chip and really it's the best in your case over a 2600k. As for the motherboard i'd really really look at cutting that down to something like a Asrock Z68 Extreme4 , or Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3, of anything around the £150, £300 for a motherboard imo is too much untill you can give reason why you'd need the features on that specifc motherboard. From what you've said almost any z68 board at this price point will cover what you need + room for SLI later.

Regarding the RAM, definatly for 2x4GB as you have done, dual channel is fine, the only way you'd notice a triple channel system is in benchmarks anyway. That ram though is more than likely too tall for your heat sink + mobo, check it carefully or consider some low profile RAM.
 
as mentioned by gamma check out the asrock z68 mobos, mentioned a few times on specs and seem to do a good job.

memory wise check out the cheaper corsair/kingston 8gb packs, around the £60 mark, not seen any compatability issues etc mentioned, and again seen them spec'd a fair bit.

processor wise 2500K will do fine, only reason to go for 2600 is if your into video editing etc.
 
this RAM

Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) - £59.99

and this mobo

MSI Z68A-GD80-G3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - £19.99

will do you nicely. the asrock that people have mentioned is a solid choice too. the maximus IV extreme-z is a great board but not really necessary. however if you've got the money and don't mind the extra £100 then it's a good choice. the bios is nicer on asus boards
 
I've spent some time looking at the boards suggested and some others I noticed and I'm wondering what you make of the Asrock Fatal1ty Z68 Pro Gen 3?

It looks quite handy from a future-proofing stand point. Claims support of the upcoming Ivy Bridge processors and is PCI Express 3.0 ready. Perfect for an upgrade a couple of years down the line. The chipset coolers on the board have quite a low profile too, which is important given I'm going for a big CPU cooler. It's also red which will match the colour of the LEDs in the case. The onboard sound is pretty poor, but that is a non issue as I'm getting a sound card.

For memory I do see the potential problem with it being quite tall. Corsair is my preference here and thankfully they offer a low profile version of the RAM I listed earlier.

With those two changes I shave another £100 off the build.

Anyone got any thoughts about my storage solution? SSD for windows and a partitioned 1TB drive for everything else?
 
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