New Server - Core Components?

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Ahoy,
I am a developer by trade but my boss looks after the server side of things but I think he has been out of the loop hardware wise for a while and might be out of his depth.... but anywho, he has been put in charge of buying a few new servers. The budget for 3 new servers (2 web and 1 database) is around £7.5k.

Now I saw a spec he got from a company and it looks as though the CPU is based on the core 2 duo (but obviously the Xeon version). I was pushing for the Xeon counter part to the i7, but he said he phoned someone from Misco and they said they aren't out yet, which I find hard to believe!

As I said - I'm not a server guru, far from it. But if we are going to get some new hardware, I want to make sure it's at least in the correct ball park. Any pointers for the core components?
Thanks.
 
Thanks for the feedback guys. For the DB we've got to get a single cpu (due to licencing issues) so I want to make sure it's a good one :) The boss always buys from HP tbh, but don't know why he is having a hard time getting one with the CPU list I supplied (from the wiki page listed above).

Will keep proding him in the direction of some of the posts above :)

@iaind:
We have a single database (about 5gb in size) that contains the core system the business is build on and the accounts information (not sure of size).

There are about 5 people in accounts, but the main load will be coming from the 'core' system. We have about 150 engineers who download and upload information from the pdas (what I would class as light load) and then 50 or so people in the office running reports, which usually hammer the db the most.

At the moment (I'm not 100% sure on the hardware), I think its running the P4 HT server equivalent (~3ghz or there about) and most likely running on a single hdd.

External web server: used by all the clients to query the core system as well as the 150 engineers in the field.

Internal web server: used bu the 50 or so people in the office.

Personally I think we are all out of our depth when it comes to small business hardware. I have no doubt the configuration will be less than perfect, but I just want to make sure we have the right hardware.
 
Aye tbh the database server doesnt really go over 40% at the moment... the company will not pay out for the additional cpu licencing and the hardware; I think the boost to a new high end server replacing the existing one (at least 3 years old, if not more) should see the company through any growth we see in the next few years and if the server is a dual socket, we can upgrade if we really need too (I'm assuming you can leave a 2nd socket empty?).

With the amount of usage we see, the server is never really handing more than 1 query at any given time, so 4 cores / 8 threads should easily be enough?

Before I joined the db was a proper mess with pretty much no indexing so the database was at 80% most of the time, if not higher.
 
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