New system for gaming and VR

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Hi All

I am looking at replacing my venerable 7 year old system (i7-8700K CPU, 2070S, 16GB ram). In all my years of owning PCs (starting with a 486SX33) I've always thought - next one I'll build myself. And somehow it never happens! Partly wimping out, partly not wanting to receive all the bits and it still be ages before I have a working PC from them!

it's a similar story this time, my head is very much being turned by pre-build systems. So I thought - why not share such a system here, and ask for your guys advice? Should I be going for self-build instead? What could I get in the same ball-park, what advantage would I see?
I'm hoping this will not be frowned upon, as I am comparing OCUK with OCUK, no competitors.

I want something that will drive a Quest 3 as well as possible, and run games at high settings for the foreseeable future. In the lucky position that I can afford to go a bit daft, so here's what I've seen on the OCUK website:

What would you consider changing, or what would you build yourself instead of that? That price point isn't set in stone either. If you think I can spend less for the same performance, then suggest away. If you think I could pay a little more for a large gain, happy to listen to that too!

If there's any other info that I can provide to help others help me, just tell me so!

One complication that I can share:
My PC is in a slightly modified oak desk. it sits in the cupboard section, but the rear panel is removed, and the draw above is removed too. This leaves it with a good 120mm x 300mm gap at the front to draw air from, and completely open behind the case. It does mean that the case size is limited though.

The size of the enclosure is approx 540mm deep, 270mm wide (at it's narrowest) and 580mm tall. Current no-name case is 480mm deep, 500mm tall and 200mm wide, and it's a pretty good fit. Allows wiggle and air room around it. But a decent case with a good reputation for noise and temp control would be great. As you can imagine, in a cupboard, flashy RGB is not a priority!

I hope this is an interesting challenge, not an annoying question! Thanks in advance for any help and advice.
 
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Thank you - really appreciate the effort you have put into that! :)

I wasn't sure whether modifications would carry over, so I didn't make any. But 100% agree with you - I would have been increasing the SSD sizes.

Can I ask about the case you have changed to? Is it simply saving money because a window isn't needed? or are there any other considerations which led you to that specific case?

Am I interpreting rightly that the processor has the integrated graphics? I remember back in the day that being a mobo thing, and I guess I'd continued to assume that was the way it still worked without ever checking!
 
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I'm also on board with the idea of air cooling instead of an AIO. Personal bias - my current system is the only AIO I've ever had, and I've never quite managed to stop it having occasional buzzes from something resonating and the like. If I was being fair, it's much more likely due to the poor case than the poor cooling quality!
 
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I'd change it to something like this:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £2,399.77 (includes delivery: £11.98)​



- Larger SSDs are usually better value and I don't think it makes sense to give up an M.2 slot for just 500GB.
- 4080 Super is a lot cheaper and while the top-end ray tracing performance can be significant, on average TPU have it @ 24% faster, but the price is something like 60-80% higher.
- If you're going with stock RAM, I'd up it to 64GB, especially as DDR5 systems seem to dislike 4 sticks.
- Swapped the KF to a K, you never know when it might come in handy to have the integrated graphics.

This build has me very tempted now. The £800 difference between the 4090 and the 4080S is pretty dramatic, and I've always been of the approach of buying just behind the cutting edge previously. It was only the VR consideration that had me tempted to move away from that approach. On reflection, with everything else high spec too, surely the 4080S will be sufficient.
After the further discussion we had, I'll probably try out a good quality AIO for the cooling. I shouldn't let one experience put me off.

I'll just consider the cooling a bit more, and maybe look at some other cases too to see if I have a preference.
 
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An update here, because it's impolite to leave the thread hanging after all the excellent advice offered!

I realised, as I was about to contact Overclockers about an order, that I had got back into, and was almost exclusively playing a game which absolutely wouldn't use the abilities of the new system (Divinity:Original Sin). So I decided to delay the purchase.
And after actually managing to complete that game (I've put huge time into it previously, but never to completion) I suddenly got a new hankering - and I'm playing Xenonauts now!

So the only real reason for an imminent purchase is for running a Quest 3 (which I also haven't yet bought!)

I will definitely take the plunge in the near future. But my miserly side is putting it off. :D

I will undoubtedly return to this thread again when I'm ready to go, just in case any advice is changed with newer available tech. :)
 
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