New to Gym - Joint Pain

Sandycheeks

Sandycheeks

Sandycheeks

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I am 38, 6'2" and 104kgs.
Started at the gym about 2 weeks ago and usually go every other day.
I start off with 20mins treadmill = 10 mins walk and 10 mins run at 6mph.
I then move on to arms /shoulders etc...

Mon = 20 mins cardio followed by arms and shoulders.
Tues = off
Wed = 20 mins cardio followed by back/chest.
Thur = off
Fri = 40mins Swimming.
Sat = 20 mins cardio followed by Legs.

I haven't been particularly active for a long time and have been flying a desk at work for the last 8 years also and feel I may have jumped in a bit too quick.
I used to go to the gym about 18 years ago but stopped going as I was beginning to see the benefits.

I am now getting a lot of joint pain especially in the hips and wondered what the best thing is to take.

I don't do veggies, apart from carrots and nips, and green beans although not nearly enough but I can't make myself eat them as I am repulsed by most veg and also I have IBS so not really supposed to eat a lot of fruit or veg on medical grounds.
I also recently had my thyroid nuked and am now taking meds to increase thyroid function as it's a little low atm which doesn't sound too bad but it makes me tired and causes fatigue.

I intend to start the stronglifts but kind of wanted to spend a couple of weeks getting used to it again and using the resistance machines to start off with.
 
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The best thing to take is a slower approach to hitting the gym (for the next fortnight or so).

Your hips hurt because you probably have some rather interesting biomechanical dysfunction around your ankles, hips and lower back (i.e. your ankles are not sufficiently flexible, your thigh muscles are too tight in the wrong places, your glute med is pitiful and your core doesn't function). This will require stretching, rolling and strengthening, so go and see:

a) a sports physio if it persists once you slow your exercise rate;
b) a strength and conditioning coach to actually sort out your lifting and remediate your issues.

Taking "something" won't actually help you, as you won't even treat the symptoms sufficiently. Fix the cause: get strong, get stable, and reap the benefits in real life. :) And no, resistance machines are not a good idea because they trick you into thinking you are stronger/more stable than you actually are, as they do most of the stabilisation stuff. Ditch the machines, find some free weights and get moving.

And I thought IBS is compounded by heavy sulfur-bearing veg? Oh, well - you learn something new every day! :)
 
mrthingyx said:
The best thing to take is a slower approach to hitting the gym (for the next fortnight or so).

Your hips hurt because you probably have some rather interesting biomechanical dysfunction around your ankles, hips and lower back (i.e. your ankles are not sufficiently flexible, your thigh muscles are too tight in the wrong places, your glute med is pitiful and your core doesn't function). This will require stretching, rolling and strengthening, so go and see:

a) a sports physio if it persists once you slow your exercise rate;
b) a strength and conditioning coach to actually sort out your lifting and remediate your issues.

Taking "something" won't actually help you, as you won't even treat the symptoms sufficiently. Fix the cause: get strong, get stable, and reap the benefits in real life. :) And no, resistance machines are not a good idea because they trick you into thinking you are stronger/more stable than you actually are, as they do most of the stabilisation stuff. Ditch the machines, find some free weights and get moving.

And I thought IBS is compounded by heavy sulfur-bearing veg? Oh, well - you learn something new every day! :)
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The veg thing is various types of soluble/insoluble fibre etc...
I have been keeping a food diary for the past 3 weeks now as my doctor wants to try to get to the bottom of my IBS - I've only been suffering for 20 years.

The resistance machines weren't meant as a replacement to free weights, just a starting point to get the muscles a little used to working again.
I WILL be ditching them, probably next time I go.

For now I'm going to have a couple of days off and try again, going to leave out the squats for now and do bench press instead as I don't want to load up my hips with any extra weight for now.

When I suggested taking something I was implying something like cod liver oil or glucosamine or ???
 
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I was broadly in the same boat and started last September, I've lost 5st and am fitter now than I've ever been albeit still heavy.

Exercise the first few weeks I was very sore with hip and knee pain. I found keeping everything warm helped so I wear judo type knee pads when outside and leggings under my shorts. Once I built up some basic muscle it all went away. Also you get used to being a bit sore and ache but it's all good. Also I always have a couple of scoops of plain impact whey after a session or if I'm sore before bed.

Food I have Ulcerative Colitis and have found ditching gluten and clean eating has helped massively. I haven't had a drink since September and funnily enough have found through looking into FODMAP foods that onion is a massive trigger for IBS and other bowel trouble so I have ditched all onion and it's helped as well.

I also look after my gut, so probiotics, tumeric, lots of plain FAGE yoghurt and now I'm having some fresh live kefir daily has helped as well. I'm looking to be symptom free for 6 months then reduce my nasty drugs I'm on and see how that goes.

Also force 3 ltrs of water down you a day with a pinch of Himalayan pink salt in each.

I'm looking at alternate fasting as well and despite the trend for breakfast I've found eating only between 10 & 7 helps, it give my colon a rest, again you get used to it.

You need to address your vegetable concerns.

Insofar to taking something I've tried lots and none of them really worked. Sticking at it and looking after what I put in my mouth has helped more.

Good luck :)
 
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First time poster in respect of the gym. But I have been lifting for about 4 years now and I can support what the other guys are saying.

When I first started lifting I was suffering with joint aches and niggles (aside from muscle soreness) and *touch wood* this has all gone now.

I believe it was down to two things :

1)Poor form. I was too eager to lift without checking that I wasn't damaging other elements of my body. From my perspective this has been an ongoing process and I am constantly trying to adapt my form to ensure that I isolate and work those muscle groups that should be getting worked.

2)Your body is adapting to its new 'environment'. Bicep curling used to hurt my forearms and my wrists. This is not the case any more. Deadlifting also used to cause issues with my intercostal muscles under my ribs. Constant strengthening and conditioning has also eradicated this for me now.

I am not an expert on lifting and a lot of other guys on this forum can give you more and better advise than me, but this is my take on it from my own experience and learning curve.
 
maccapacca said:
Food I have Ulcerative Colitis and have found ditching gluten and clean eating has helped massively. I haven't had a drink since September and funnily enough have found through looking into FODMAP foods that onion is a massive trigger for IBS and other bowel trouble so I have ditched all onion and it's helped as well.

I also look after my gut, so probiotics, tumeric, lots of plain FAGE yoghurt and now I'm having some fresh live kefir daily has helped as well. I'm looking to be symptom free for 6 months then reduce my nasty drugs I'm on and see how that goes.

Also force 3 ltrs of water down you a day with a pinch of Himalayan pink salt in each.
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Onion? Why didn't I think of that?? Been trying to pin down what it was. I know the foods (e.g. chilli) but I just put it down to beef. Then I wasn't getting the symptoms eating steak...
 
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