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Relentless81

Relentless81

Relentless81

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Hi,

I'm so confused Monitors are so much easier to understand than TVs!

I was about to buy a TV today as its been reduced, its the LG 49UK6400PLF and we need a new TV because ours keeps restarting and its really annoying

I was about to buy it when I noticed its only 50hz, then I noticed refresh rates are all over the place for TVs

What gives? I want to use the TV with a PS4 Pro and HTPC and will want 60FPS for gaming so how will the PS4 work and will I have to cap the HTPCs FPS to 50?

Or is better to spend more and get something that 60hz, or 100hz etc etc

Thanks
 
TVs usually have a frame rate increasing tech is input 50 or 60hz and increases to 72, 100, 200 etc.

Not sure that the natively support 60hz+ from hdmi unlike monitors ie 144hz don't think they do not support gsync or freesync.
 
It will do 60Hz fine, 50/60 are interchangeable when listed.

As to that TV, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole personally, it's an RGBW panel not an RGB, it's not a true 4K panel as a quarter of the sub pixels are white. it'll also play hell with the aliasing on PS4 because of the sub pixel arrangement.
 
TheMightyTen said:
It will do 60Hz fine, 50/60 are interchangeable when listed.

As to that TV, I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole personally, it's an RGBW panel not an RGB, it's not a true 4K panel as a quarter of the sub pixels are white. it'll also play hell with the aliasing on PS4 because of the sub pixel arrangement.
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Really? Thats not good I was really happy with the price as my job is at risk at the moment so cant spend too much, the TV going faulty has come at a bad time. Ss there anything better in the price range? I honestly have know idea what you have said I thought the resolution was the resolution
 
hornetstinger said:
TVs usually have a frame rate increasing tech is input 50 or 60hz and increases to 72, 100, 200 etc.

Not sure that the natively support 60hz+ from hdmi unlike monitors ie 144hz don't think they do not support gsync or freesync.
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I dont want the fake stuff that causes lag I beleive

Happy with native 60hz, 50hz not so much
 
Relentless81 said:
I honestly have know idea what you have said I thought the resolution was the resolution
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Nope, not when every 4th pixel is an un-addressable white pixel that is there to simply bolster whites and screen brightness, on a real 4K TV the full row of 3840 pixels (hence 4k ;)) contribute to the picture, on an RGBW panel only 2880 pixels of the row contribute to the picture the other 960 only add to the relative brightness.
 
TheMightyTen said:
Nope, not when every 4th pixel is an un-addressable white pixel that is there to simply bolster whites and screen brightness, on a real 4K TV the full row of 3840 pixels (hence 4k ;)) contribute to the picture, on an RGBW panel only 2880 pixels of the row contribute to the picture the other 960 only add to the relative brightness.
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Ok thats interesting, what price do True 4K panels start at and is RGBW still better than a Full HD panel?

WHats the best way to identify if a panel is RGBW because any manufacturer could be telling you the panel is 4k when its not?
 
the cheapest TV that is best for use with a PS4 pro is the samsung NU8000

it's around £740 for the 55inch

it's around £700 for the 49 inch so best going with the 55 inch.

if you can't afford it you can always get it interest free from john lewis by phoning them up. i think 12-18 months.

IMO it's the best tv to go for for the money.

the next best is the sony XF90 for £1000 then the B8 OLED for £1500.
 
Op suggests a £450 TV and that his job is potentially at risk - usual suspects suggest £700-£1500 TVs and interest free credit?

:D
 
Armageus said:
Op suggests a £450 TV and that his job is potentially at risk - usual suspects suggest £700-£1500 TVs and interest free credit?

:D
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you won't get any TV that will make a PS4 pro shine for anywhere near £450.

it's funny how he can afford to spend £300 on a console. then potentially another £200 on games and accessories.

yet can't afford £700 for a tv. some peoples budgets are laughable. you have to be realistic. if he can't get the NU8000 then he should save up or stick with current tv or go interest free like i said.
 
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Psycho Sonny said:
not for HDR gaming no.

HDR is a luxury. a premium. you have to pay money for it.
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Psycho Sonny said:
you won't get any TV that will make a PS4 pro shine for anywhere near £450.

it's funny how he can afford to spend £300 on a console. then potentially another £200 on games and accessories.

yet can't afford £700 for a tv. some peoples budgets are laughable. you have to be realistic
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TBH, the only laughable thing in here is your often poor attitude and generally aggressively bad advice but heyho, each to their own :rolleyes:


Relentless81 said:
Any other recommendations within budget?
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Most of the brands at the low end are much of a muchness and will do a job, nothing spectacular but you will see a big difference and improvement over what you already have as image processors and upscalers have improved massively over the last 5 years.

At that low end as you plan to game, as I have said earlier avoid the LGs because as far as I can see until the SK series they all use RGBW panels. Samsungs, Hisense and Pannys are all worth a look, everything cuts corners somewhere so you have to balance needs vs wants. I'd recommend reading reviews on Rtings, they are often listed by their US model numbers but where possible they do list the European equivalent if they know it, also have a good read of AVForums reviews and the forums proper for the manufacturers.
 
Relentless81 said:
Any other recommendations within budget?
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At the £300-£500 market they are all something of a much-ness.
- Toshiba are nothing more than a name these days (although I have a smaller 24" "new" Toshiba and the quality is fine for the price paid).
- Panasonic - I personally would avoid (having recently had issues with one - although *hopefully* now resolved)
- Hisense *seem* to have some good TV's e.g. the H50A6200UK gets a good review https://www.avforums.com/review/hisense-h50a6200uk-review.15431 and the 50U7A equally seems to be fairly good. However there is some discussion as to whether Hisense have been shipping "hand-picked" examples for review
- LG - Potentially have the RGBW panels as previously mentioned - but depends on the specific model.
- Samsung - should be ok e.g. https://www.richersounds.com/tv-projectors/all-tvs/samsung-ue50nu7400.html would likely be my choice (if I had an option to replace my Panasonic)

Psycho Sonny said:
HDR is a luxury. a premium. you have to pay money for it.
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Yes it is, and I can agree that on a cheaper TV for the most part it is a box ticking exercise, that's better turned off. However, having played Uncharted 4 with HDR on my "laughable budget TV", I can still see the difference and the benefit it brings, and look forward to better technology trickling down to more affordable pricing.


Psycho Sonny said:
yet can't afford £700 for a tv. some peoples budgets are laughable. you have to be realistic
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Your attitude is laughable - you need to stop being elitest.
 
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I keep seeing that Hisense model mentioned but cant find it, will have another look

Thanks for all the advice.

RE my job, its not too much of a concern I'm just being cautious if I wanted to go out and buy a top of the range OLED TV I could but that wouldn't be very sensible. I need a new TV because my current one is faulty so I've set a budget I am comfortable with, lets be honest no one is going to go without a TV especially with a child.
 
If it's really a temporary solution I would scour gumtree and the like to minimise depreciation and sell it on once I was safely back in OLED territory.
 
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