New Z390 and more ram needed

[ade555]

Last year my founds was a bit tight so had to settle on H310 mobo to run the i7, yeah I know is budget one and pretty basic but it did the job, now I'm looking for Z390 matx to run current system and around xmas should be able to get the newer I7-9700k or maybe the 9900, also running with only 16gb 2666mhz ram, and looking to have 32gb,

For my needs what would you recommend? Can I just add another 16gb ram or should I replace all with 32GB and faster speeds?



This if I want to just add ram?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...151-ddr4-micro-atx-motherboard-mb-57e-gi.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/cors...hannel-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2a26-my-441-cs.html

 

[ade555]

At this moment I have I7 8700 non K, planning on getting i7 9700k or the 9900K, also doing a bit of video editing and already short on memory plus this also serves as flight sim rig so definitely 32GB will be improvement in both departments, question is should I stick with just adding another 16gb 2666mhz or changning to 32gb 3200 or even faster. Now the gigabyte z390 m gaming have 4 slots dual channel so both options are open.

 

[ade555]

Well sort of yeah, but ram I dont need to change for faster unless I will see lot of gains hence question if I would be better saving some money and get another only 16gb 2666 ,now amd is not a option for as simple as that, sorry to be blunt but that's my choice.

 

[ade555]

Well for Intel i believe 3200 is the sweetspot and any faster provides very little gain, on the otherhand i dont believe going from 2666 up to 3200 will give you any real world noticeable performance increase as intel is not as sensitive to RAM speeds.

However, as i said, if you are going to change your MB and CPU soon then you can get to within about 95% gaming performance of a 9900k for far less money with a 3700x. Something to think about.

Thanks for clearing the ram question, again AMD might be for some people when it comes to some games, this pc also serves as flight sim so single core performance is a must at this moment, wonder how AMD compares in that department?

 

[ade555]

Current mobo just doesn't cut it, only 2 dimm slots, only 1 M.2, not great for gtx card as I believe it only provide x8 and not x16, again this was only cheap purchase to tie me over until founds are available, due to shortage on ram for video editing need to add more I think the best solution would be better mobo as I want to upgrade the CPU around xmas anyway, instead of just wasting money on 32GB which is around £150 I can get better mobo and another 16gb corsair ram for like £204, that way would give me 32gb ram and socket for the gen9 intel CPU 9700k or the 9900k there is good price hike between them so not decided yet as I want to be the somewhere at the 5ghz on all cores

When it comes to boards the gigabyte is the cheaper compare the asus or msi, but for my needs which is better? best bang for buck sort of speak. Don't need wifi, all boards have plenty USB for my needs, only need 4 sata connectors, still trying to wrap my head around all them nvme ssd, I don't understand all of it, I know there are m2 ssd with around same speed as std ssd disks but then there out pciex4 which have more then double the speeds, I have one already but would like to run another.

Hope you can understand all of this.

 

[ade555]

if I am correct having already 16gb @ 2666mhz and if I add another 16GB of whatever speed I'm sure the faster ram will be running only at speeds of the slower one? so even if i went for the 3000-4000 wouldn't help much, please correct me if I'm wrong,

 

[ade555]

Ram kits are a tricky thing. Even if you buy the same kit of 2x8GB they "might" not work together. If you buy a faster kit there's a chance that it might not work at all, or work at the lowest speed possible. In any case the wisest thing would be to sell these sticks and buy a 32gb set, either 2x16gb or 4x8gb.

Now you adding me another dilemma

 

[ade555]

gentlemans my pocket are not that deep for 4000+ ram, , something around the 3200 unless I can easy overclock some type of ram like maybe the one got mention early from 3000 to 3600?

 

[ade555]

So would this all be ok?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Gigabyte Z390 M Gaming Intel Z390 (Socket 1151) DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard= £129.95
• 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD432G3= £128.99

Total: £269.44 (includes shipping: £10.50)​

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[ade555]

I'm pulling my hair out now been honest, there isn't much to choose from in matx form

Gigabyte z390m
MSI z390m gaming edge - already found info Voltage regulator is under-cooled for heavy Core i9-9900K loads
Asus z390m tuf gaming
Asus Rog maximus XI gene which is nearly double in price of the other boards.

hmmm what to do now?

 

[ade555]

My new z390 is fitted now, I went in the end for the MSI z390m, I had recently notice that the old H310 wasn't working great with the I7 8700, now so much better, CPU can constantly run at full speed.

 

[ade555]

FRom what I read before also purchasing an MSI Z390M board it should be fine for an i7-9700K with headroom for some OC.
The primary reason I choose it (there's not much choice out there) is that it had 4x DIMM and 2x M.2 with 5 PWM fan headers, something I thought I'd need when air cooling in a tight mATX case. The XI Gene looked interesting, but no way was I going to spend £400 on a baord for this build.

I was planning on getting the I9-9900k but I won't see the return on that CPU what I use for, along with you need decent board to OC that chip and there isn't much choice in Z390m I will have to settle on same CPU as yours so should have much problem OC that, I can't test any overclock apart form raising BCLK on my current CPU but run prime95 for 1H and no problems, so all in all fairly happy, I don't really get the software for audio, looks a bit gimmick if you ask me, Bios is nice and easy to use. Main advantage for me everything else works as it should moving away from cheap mobo, now I know the reason why the H series boards are so cheap, oh well live and learn in future spend bit more it will cost less in long run.