Newbie in peril :(

Lyonic

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Hey there, really hope you can help me as I feel like this whole Gaming PC is really intimidating and i feel way over my head.

I am currently looking to buy my first ever gaming PC and have a budget of £1800. I am looking to get something which I dont have to do anything to (like overclocking or messing with stuff) as I have the fear and cant put the hours in.

The games I am looking to play with this PC would be things like the Total War series, Bethesda titles etc. Basically looking to have it running on max settings without having to worry about it blowing up (my current setup currently can fry an egg when i play on my laptop).

The post is really because I come onto this site and I am really having trouble understanding whats "good" or what i should be getting for my money. I went onto a different website called "**No Competitors please**" but everyone said I should come here instead. Any thoughts on that?

Finally on that **No Competitors please** the rig i currently have in the basket ready to buy is:

PROCESSOR: Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake CPU, 4 Cores, 4.0 - 4.2GHz
GRAPHICS: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Graphics Card
COOLER: Corsair Hydro H75 CPU Cooler
PASTE: Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Particle Thermal Paste
CASE COOLING: Cooler Master Sickleflow Green Fan Upgrade Pack
MOTHERBOARD: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING Motherboard
MEMORY: 32GB DDR4 3000MHz Memory (4 x 8GB Sticks)
OS DRIVE: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO Solid State Drive
SECONDARY HARD DRIVE: Seagate 2TB 7200RPM Hard Disk
POWER SUPPLY: Corsair RM650X 80 PLUS Gold 650W Modular PSU

They overclock the computer 20% or something i dont really know what that means but i thought that was cool.

Thats pretty much it. Like I said, I really just dont wanna get ripped of or get a bum rig that isnt compatible with eachother. Hoping to get a seamless gaming experience for this money (Which has been many months of saving)


Thanks guys and hope you can help!
 
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I always custom build and overclockers always win award for the custom builds, I could not recommend them enough for their customer service and build quality :)

Personally I would use this paste:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ther...ance-thermal-paste-5.5g-1.5-ml-th-001-tg.html

If you can afford it go for an M2 SSD:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...-solid-state-drive-mz-n5e250bw-hd-203-sa.html
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sams...3.0-x-4-nvme-solid-state-drive-hd-215-sa.html

Everything else looks good to me :)

Stelly
 
seeming as you are going for one graphics card you could go for a smaller case. Also if you aren't planning on overclocking then you could save some money by going for a cheaper motherboard and a non-k cpu
 
Thanks for the great replies guys, would love some follow up.

Stelly: Was really curious about that SSD thing, would i get that thing instead of the
OS DRIVE: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO Solid State Drive

Benjamham: I would be overclocking 20%, the reason for a big case i think is im a big girls blouse and am terrified of my computer catching on fire XD and atleast everything will have plenty room
 
Stelly are you advising him to get a M.2 drive in addition to his current storage or in place of the 250Gb SSD he already mentioned? Unless you going to be swapping lots of files around I don't see the point of M.2 drives in a desktop case especially when he could get a 2.5" 500Gb SSD for the same money.

You could save some cash by 1/2 your memory to 16Gb's, no game is going to be bottle necked any time soon with that and it's plenty fast enough.
 
I would suggest, since the OP mentioned Total War series, that X99 may be worth consideration.

There is enough evidence to suggest that Total War is one of those rare games which show a definite performance advantage from the extreme platform over the mainstream.
 
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Freddie1980: Does the 250 ssd thing is a samsung white one, and there is a red one like a pro series. I was wondering if 250 is enough? also if you know about the m.2, if its needed.

Cheers
 
ScottiB said:
I would suggest, since the OP mentioned Total War series, that X99 may be worth consideration.

There is enough evidence to suggest that Total War is one of those rare games which show a definite performance advantage from the extreme platform over the mainstream.
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I bow to your knowledge good sir :)

Stelly
 
I would not get a pre overclocked computer unless you know how to overclock or at least feel comfortable in the bios. Overclocks can fail requiring additional voltage or a downclock or restoration of default clock speeds and settings and if you dont feel comfortable with that happening down the line dont get the system overclocked. A stock 6700K is more than fast enough.
 
Lyonic said:
Freddie1980: Does the 250 ssd thing is a samsung white one, and there is a red one like a pro series. I was wondering if 250 is enough? also if you know about the m.2, if its needed.

Cheers
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The M.2 storage option for a gamer isn't needed for your type of build, your paying a premium for having a device that's small and fits neatly onto your motherboard and although it's "faster" you will only see the benefits if your transferring lots of file around. When it comes to loading games, levels and Windows there is literally no difference at all between a M.2 drive and regular SSD.
 
Have you ever had an overclock fail Kiyoshi? It happens. I've seen it happen on 3 systems after a couple of years.

If the OP doesn't know how to at very least reset the BIOS he's going to end up with a brick when that happens.

YMMV obviously but I just don't think it's worth having an overclocked system if you don't know how to service it yourself. A 4GHZ 4c8t i7 is fine for the next couple of years.
 
Lyonic said:
ScottiB: whats the difference between an x99 and what i listed sorry
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The X99/Broadwell-E platform gives you more memory bandwidth and more cores. This is not essentially an improvement in many games, where the slightly higher clock speeds of Z170/Skylake are preferred. However, Total War, and other such AI/physics intensive games, benefit from this extra number crunching capability.

As for an buying an overclocked PC. If you were to buy a PC from us you'd receive the system with the BIOS profile saved for easy restoration, in case of a failure. In the event that this no longer worked, our system support guys (who are not just phone jockeys but system builders too) can help you to get it back up and running easily enough.

A good OC will not fail unless:
- A component fails
- You mess with the BIOS in some way

A bad OC generally occurs when the system builder is trying to push the clock too high for that particular CPU, they increase the voltage too much and cause degradation in the Silicon, which in turn causes the CPU to become weaker and more unstable as it ages.

I cannot talk for our competitors, but we have very few issues with our OC systems.

mistersprinkles said:
If the OP doesn't know how to at very least reset the BIOS he's going to end up with a brick when that happens.
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Stop feeding BS horror stories. If the OC fails on any half decent motherboard it will reset to defaults and let you either try to reinstate the OC automatically or boot with default settings.

You either;
know that and you are choosing to ignore it so that you can appear to be a knowledgeable voice of reason to an admittedly inexperienced user,
or
you are not as experienced and knowledgeable as you want to appear.
 
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X99 does give you more cores/threads and higher memory bandwidth. I agree that the higher clockspeed of Skylake is of benefit to a lot of games. Some definitely do take advantage of the additional cores/threads though. I'm very happy gaming on X99 and my current system handles everything very well.

ScottiB said:
Stop feeding BS horror stories. If the OC fails on any half decent motherboard it will reset to defaults and let you either try to reinstate the OC automatically or boot with default settings.
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While horror stories do occur, they're usually down to users playing around trying to max out their OC and getting something wrong, such as running crazy-high voltages and actually damaging something. A pre-built system won't be configured like this!

If my OC fails on my board, it automatically reboots using optimised defaults if I don't press anything within a time frame. Afterwards all I have to do is go into the BIOS and load the saved profile - this is really easy even if you're not an experienced user.
 
Hey guys thanks for the replies and I am now too scared to get a pre overclocked computer but thats okay because I decided to use Overclockers instead of the other site :)

This is what I have chosen

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...YXqPe?#;AreV(8BaaW77BEKX(,EFK15$5EFL15$~EGL15:.

I have a few questions maybe you can help with?

1. First of all the little boxes beside the items, green, orange and red. What do they mean?

2. When i was first looking at the motherboards i was really intimidated by it. I have no clue about this stuff and was recommended to get the MSI one along with the MSI graphics card. Is this okay in this build?

3. I phoned the guy at overclockers and was asking if i could get 32 ram instead of the 16 (As 16 is the highest you can go) I was just wondering why this isnt an option and what make of RAM i should add?

4. lastly, is my build ok? Like is it all compatible with eachother etc? I have no idea and im really worried because this is a lot of money for me (now 2k) and i cant really afford to learn from any mistakes here :P
 
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1. Green means in stock, Red means out of stock, Orange means that they are due back in stock soon.

2. All of the motherboard/graphics combinations work fine together. The reason for offering such a wide selection is that some people have brand preferences, others want a specific colour schemes, others may want specific features.

3. I've added a few 32GB options for you, they should upload soon. 2x16GB kits are quite new and for purely gaming, not really required.

4. The spec is fine except for one thing. You've selected a DVDRW drive with a case that has no bay for it.
 
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