Newbie itx gaming advice

GJM

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Hi all,

OK, first off appologies.

Firstly i'm a bit of a noob.
Sorry if theres a proper place for newbie questions or dedicated guides to building basic gaming rigs, but i thought as m-itx is a bit specialised i'd post here first.

I built a gaming rig about 5 years ago. E2180, 2GB ram, ati rad 3850.
But since then i've totaly lost pace with hardware. SSD and sandybridge is all new to me.

Anyway.

I've always been interested in building a m-itx gaming rig. Small, quiet, different. And nows the time to builda new system for BF3, GTA V if and when it arrives.

But im a bit unsure as to what components to go with.

So was wanting some advice if you dont mind.

I have set aside approx £600 - £700

Mostly for gaming, would like high settings. Also possible HTPC, downloading trash and using USB tv decoder to record stuff.
Reasonable futureproof. I know £600 isnt a lot to make a futureproof rig but i would like to get a good 3/4 years out of it before updating anything major.

CPU : i5 2500k
Seems best bang for buck at the moment?
K for overclocking is not greatly needed as from what i gather overlocking is rather limited on m-itx boards, unless the latest chipsets have helped matters?

CPU cooler: ?
If overclocking on itx boards is limited then is a stock cooler sufficient or does the small size of itz cases mean aftermarket cooling is a good idea.
If overclocking is possible on newer boards whats a cheap but good ocking cooler that also fits in a confined space?

Mobo: ?
To much choice?!
Seems to Asus, Gigabyte and Zotac are the main players.
Am i right in saying Z68 chipsets the latest and offer a degree of overclocking?
Onboard Wi-Fi on the Asus and Zotac seems nice.
Otherwise, that do people recommend?

RAM: ?
Again, to much choice?!
It seems most m-itx boards only take upto 1333Mhz and 8GB - 12GB so these are the limiting factors. But so many brands? Whats hot and whats not?

GPU: ATI 3870 or GTX 560
Not put to much thought into this yet. It seems lots of itx gamers rave about the 3850 / 70 being great bang for buck. GTX 560 seems its counterpart?
But then looking through builds on here there are people putting all manner of big cards in itx cases, is the sky the limit?

Storage: ?
I have some old IHDs which i could use, but no doubt slow and noisy by modern standards. It seem the thing to do now is have a 1TB IHD and a smaller SSD with Windows on for super fast load times? Really necessary?

Case: ?
Worlds your oyster i guess. Lots of Lian Li, SilverStone, Sugo etc cases. Its just a matter of whether the GPU fits?

1 other queary. What are the pros and cons of Shuttle barebones systems? They seem to offer more features than standard itx mobos. What are the relative pros of building a system from scratch instead?

So, any advice greatly appreciated. I know its a lot to ask.

Thanks!
Graham :p
 
Many thanks for the hints Tute, it's given me a better understanding of where to start and methodicaly work my way up through the hardware i need.

You asked whether its really itx or atx i need. I've always liked the idea of a mini build so itx is the first stop.

But of course the eyes can always be bigger than the stomach as it were...

I fancy a 'do it all' PC that can game but also be a media, theatre, TV PC.
This idealy means expansion slots for a TV card, USB tv sticks really dont mesh well with the idea of a neat, mini build.

But that flies in the face of ITX, no expansion slots.

So i've had a look at your list of micro-atx cases.

The trouble is if your doing a SFF build you want it to be.... well... small!
And even the smaller desktop m-atx cases look huge in comparison to itx builds. So much so i think if i were to go micro-atx, why not go the whole hog and go full size atx, theres not that much size difference.

So i think i'd like to stick to itx, small and neat. Even if that does mean using a usb TV tuner.

Thats another nod towards a Shuttle build. They have PCIe x16 and a PCIe x1 so i could have both PGU and TV. I'm just not sure if they would both fit, the sockets seem very close together.
 
Thanks for the replies so far chaps, much appreciated.

I think im starting to settle on the basis of a system.

SilverStone Sugo SG05 BB - 450W £103
About as small as you can go with GPU.
450w PSU
Will fit most cards.

Zotac Z68 ITX WiFi £130
Z68 board with mild overclock capabilities
Inbuilt WiFi, i dont like the idea of a small, neat build with a USB wifi stick.

i5 2500k £179

Kingston HyperX 8GB Ram £40
Going cheap OcUk

GPU £170
See below

= £ 622

So that leaves...

CPU cooler????
Need something that will fit in the SG05 but adequatly cool the i5 with a little overclocking.

GPU????
I'm looking in the £170 -/+ £20 region.
Needs to fit SG05, not to much of a problem as will fit anything but the largest of cards.
I'm hearing about 6850s being flashes to 6870? Or the 560 is getting praise at the moment?


We're getting there...slowly :D
 
Hullo. After much deliberation (e.g. putting off) I've finally ordered my new rig.

The original budget of £600-£800 has been blown out of the water. But hopefully it will be a better rig for it.

SG05 B 350w
Zotac Z68 Wi-Fi
i5 2500K
Scythe Shuriken Rev B
Zotac GTX 560ti 448
8 gb ram
1 TB Seagate Barracuda
60 gb OCZ SSD
Blu-Ray drive
and a Iiyama Prolite 24" monitor

Will post build and pics when it arrives.

Very excited. :D
 
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