Nibiru..2012 the end?

thevet said:
the mayans have predicted every single lunar and solar eclipse since there time to the present day,they have been just as accurate with there astronomical instruments as we have been with our instruments,yet they were about around 1000 years ago!So one thing i can understand form this is that they were great sky watchers and understood the cycles of moons planets and stars...very advanced for there time:)
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technically they were thousands of years behind

Dogoid said:
i think what the Mayans did was figure out that the positions of the stars affected everything on earth, so to predict the movement of the stars was also predicting events on earth.

nostradamus knew of this too.

everything is connected, string theory proves this.
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The movements of stars is not what they observed, they observed the movement of the EARTH relative to the stars, in either case you cannot predict events on earth, other than obvious stuff like eclipse, etc.

Nostradamus didn’t know of this, if I write a book of things that will happen, its certain that over a few hundred years most will come true, simply because the same things happen over and over and over and over and over. Not to mention that the wording used is pointless and has different meanings depending on how insane you are.

Lastly, string theory doesn’t prove anything, if it proves something then it wouldn’t be a theory for very long, but at the end of the day, you shouldn’t talk about this unless you have a PhD in theoretical physics
 
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Angilion said:
i) The entire thing is explicitly based on Mayan creationism and requires the world to have been created on the 11th of August 3114 B.C. So if you don't believe in Mayan creationism, you cannot believe in thw 2012 thing.
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Not enitirely. For start the mayans say the universe is 16 billion years old and this was when most western sicentists thought universe was 100-200 million years old.
 
eggyoke said:
So... because the Mayans made a calender that just happens to end in 2012, that means the world is going to end? I mean, did they actually SAY that this means the end of the world?

Did they ever predict anything else that has come true before? I dont mean really vague stuff that can be spun around a thousand times, like the Nostradmus crap.
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No and no.
 
Out of interest is this one of those conspiracy theory videos which offer no better "proof" part their "interpretation" of the text?

While attempting to find some of that evidence not locked away in a video, I came across some rather amusing things:

The Bible Code claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth.

The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) which will allow the third anti-christ to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in the strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other natural or man caused distraction.

The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth's magnetic field will reverse.

2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl theorizes a possible global awakening to psychic connection by the year 2012, creating a Noosphere.

McKenna's mathematical novelty theory suggests a point of singularity in which a great number of things could happen, including "hyperspatial breakthrough", planetesimal impact, alien contact, historical metamorphosis, metamorphosis of natural law, solar explosion, quasar ignition at the galactic core, or nothing.

The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy, speculated that Pope Benedict XVI would reign during the beginning of the tribulation of which Jesus spoke, and sometime later a future pope described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", the last in this prophetic list, would appear, bringing as a result the destruction of the city of Rome and the Last Judgment.
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Slightly more relevant:
But the fact remains, the Mayan Doomsday Prophecy is purely based on a calendar which we believe hasn't been designed to calculate dates beyond 2012. Mayan archaeo-astronomers are even in debate as to whether the Long Count is designed to be reset to 0.0.0.0.0 after 13.0.0.0.0, or whether the calendar simply continues to 20.0.0.0.0 (approximately 8000 AD) and then reset. As Karl Kruszelnicki brilliantly writes:
"…when a calendar comes to the end of a cycle, it just rolls over into the next cycle. In our Western society, every year 31 December is followed, not by the End of the World, but by 1 January. So 13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan calendar will be followed by 0.0.0.0.1 - or good-ol' 22 December 2012, with only a few shopping days left to Christmas." - Excerpt from Dr Karl's "Great Moments in Science".
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time wave zero is interesting, its a pity Terrence mckenna died, it would be interesting to hear his take on the world today.

his idea that the universe conserves novelty and disregards habbit is very enlightening.
 
rsatd said:
Out of interest is this one of those conspiracy theory videos which offer no better "proof" part their "interpretation" of the text?

While attempting to find some of that evidence not locked away in a video, I came across some rather amusing things:



Slightly more relevant:
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agh this makes me so angry!

This isnt an indiana jones film! There is no bible algorithms or codes! Its a story book from ages ago which has been take far too seriously.
 
Jono8 said:
Mayans werent from the west now? :confused:
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No the mayans said the universe was 16 billion years old a very long time ago. As far as i'm aware western scientists discovered this when they thought the universe was only several hundred million years old.

I don't know the exact figures but I do remember Ian Xel talking about it in the video.
 
magick said:
No the mayans said the universe was 16 billion years old a very long time ago. As far as i'm aware western scientists discovered this when they thought the universe was only several hundred million years old.

I don't know the exact figures but I do remember Ian Xel talking about it in the video.
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You missed my point. I was saying that technically Mayans were western scientists too...
 
Jono8 said:
agh this makes me so angry!

This isnt an indiana jones film! There is no bible algorithms or codes! Its a story book from ages ago which has been take far too seriously.
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Don't even know what that is about, just found it slightly funny, don't shoot the messenger of funny :( or at least alleged funny :(
 
Jono8 said:
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You missed my point. I was saying that technically Mayans were western scientists too...
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not really as western science rejects all forms of spirituality and anything it can't measure.

back in the days of the mayans science and spirituality were seen as being inter-related.
 
magick said:
not really as western science rejects all forms of spirituality and anything it can't measure.

back in the days of the mayans science and spirituality were seen as being inter-related.
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You have to be careful about what constitutes someone being labelled western.

Don't you just mean modern, clever, rational science?
 
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