Nibiru..2012 the end?

Tefal · 28 Jan 2010 at 13:01

thevet said:
Depends whats out there doesnt it

But stated that we are very inferior so you must know what's out there?

thevet · 28 Jan 2010 at 13:19

Tefal said:
But stated that we are very inferior so you must know what's out there?

i beleive what ever is out there is a lot more technologically advanced than we are,who knows,NASA and governments of the world know but we dont,we can only speculate,how the hell would i know whats out there?If you believe that we are the most advanced culture in the whole universe(which our tiny little minds cannot even begin to appreciate)then your very very short minded

Tefal · 28 Jan 2010 at 13:28

I never said we where the most advanced just that it's more likely we're more advanced than a lot of the stuff.

and more importantly alive as many of the older more advanced races could have been killed off long before they managed to escape their solar system.

You say we're inferior because we've only been to the moon yet against all known life we travel further than nearly all of them do in their lives, just to go sit in the sun and complain about Germans stealing all the sun loungers.

LabR@t · 28 Jan 2010 at 13:32

Angilion said:
They wouldn't need to - it would be impossible to hide.

So...according to your argument, the 2012 believers are trying to create mass panic, collapse of the economy and social order.

Urgh no Its what would happen if it was announced that it a large planet/comet/star was heading our way.They are not trying to create anything I was mearly suggesting what would happen.
Look at the panic buying a few weeks back when we had a tiny bit of snow.

Angilion said:
We're not talking about small stuff or huge distances.

For a brown dwarf, you wouldn't need any equipment. It would be visible to the naked eye in daylight.

For a supermassive gas giant with an albedo the same as Saturn, you'd need good amateur kit and to use it at night.

So no, it isn't down to the relatively small number of people with access to telescopes in space.

depends on distance and size which nobody knows as stated many times before nobody knows this.

Angilion said:
You appear to be claiming that our sun is a black hole and there's a main sequence star orbiting it close by with a stream of matter flowing into it, resulting in massive amounts of energy being released, especially x-rays.

Wrong link, perhaps?

sorry try this http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Evidence_Mounts_For_Companion_Star_To_Our_Sun.html

thevet · 28 Jan 2010 at 13:39

Tefal said:
I never said we where the most advanced just that it's more likely we're more advanced than a lot of the stuff.

and more importantly alive as many of the older more advanced races could have been killed off long before they managed to escape their solar system.

You say we're inferior because we've only been to the moon yet against all known life we travel further than nearly all of them do in their lives, just to go sit in the sun and complain about Germans stealing all the sun loungers.

i say we are inferior because i believe there are races/intelligent life in the universe that are so tecnologically advanced and also spiritually advanced that we will never ever get to there level,i mean look at us as a race killing each other,we cant even live and prosper as one race and move into the cosmos,who would want us up there with our nuclear bombs and warplay beliefs,we are not spiritually advanced enough plus many other reasons that our brains cannot even begin to comprehend,thats what i beleive anyhow

Dugganator · 28 Jan 2010 at 13:44

thevet said:
i say we are inferior because i believe there are races/intelligent life in the universe that are so tecnologically advanced and also spiritually advanced that we will never ever get to there level,i mean look at us as a race killing each other,we cant even live and prosper as one race and move into the cosmos,who would want us up there with our nuclear bombs and warplay beliefs,we are not spiritually advanced enough plus many other reasons that our brains cannot even begin to comprehend,thats what i beleive anyhow

Believing in something doesnt prove it does it. Thats the point tefal is making which I think you are missing. Also whats to say that other races dont act like we do and kill each other. Clearly you dont know and have no proof so why dont you pipe down until you can provide something that will make sure all shut up and say your correct. For all we know we could be the only life forms about but taking the size of the universe this is unlikely but how do we know without proof. ZOOOOOOMMMMMM

Tefal · 28 Jan 2010 at 13:46

thevet said:
i say we are inferior because i believe there are races/intelligent life in the universe that are so tecnologically advanced and also spiritually advanced that we will never ever get to there level,i mean look at us as a race killing each other,we cant even live and prosper as one race and move into the cosmos,who would want us up there with our nuclear bombs and warplay beliefs,we are not spiritually advanced enough plus many other reasons that our brains cannot even begin to comprehend,thats what i beleive anyhow

Why is it all religious people seem to believe humans are base scum of the universe with everything else being better than us?

Dugganator · 28 Jan 2010 at 13:54

Tefal said:
Why is it all religious people seem to believe humans are base scum of the universe with everything else being better than us?

Agreed. Until the time the ofsted universal Alien body of ranking races allowes us to see this magic table to see how we are ranked against our lizard neigbours..... i dont think ill persum anything.

As we dont know how can we say that we are the worst race out there. We could be the best. WE DONT KNOW YET

Angilion · 28 Jan 2010 at 14:10

LabR@t said:
Urgh no Its what would happen if it was announced that it a large planet/comet/star was heading our way.They are not trying to create anything I was mearly suggesting what would happen.
Look at the panic buying a few weeks back when we had a tiny bit of snow.

You argued that announcing that a large planet/comet/star was going to devastate Earth in a couple of years would cause "mass panic, collapse of the economy and social order." You've just done it again. That's what Nibiru/Planet X believers are doing.

depends on distance and size which nobody knows as stated many times before nobody knows this.

As stated before, believers are making claims about it which does make it possible to make statements about the validity of their claims.

SexyGreyFox · 28 Jan 2010 at 14:25

thevet said:
i say we are inferior because i believe there are races/intelligent life in the universe that are so tecnologically advanced and also spiritually advanced that we will never ever get to there level,

And I believe we are unique.
There is probably life of some sort somewhere but intelligent - who knows?

LabR@t · 28 Jan 2010 at 14:30

Angilion said:
You argued that announcing that a large planet/comet/star was going to devastate Earth in a couple of years would cause "mass panic, collapse of the economy and social order." You've just done it again. That's what Nibiru/Planet X believers are doing.

Are you telling me this wouldn't happen? Its the point I am putting over.

Angilion said:
As stated before, believers are making claims about it which does make it possible to make statements about the validity of their claims.

Yes some people are making claims which they cannot know so just ignore them.I am only interested in the possibility that the ancient texts/carvings/reliefs have been interpreted to mean the the coming/return or said planet/comet/asteroid/star. As stated we will all know soon enough if there is any legs in this tale, just let in runs its course and we shall know.

Nothing to worry about is it.

Hilly · 28 Jan 2010 at 14:33

Angilion said:
I don't recall stating that. I refered to how the lowest mass attributed to Nibiru by believers is 15 times the mass of Jupiter.

Apologies I was going from memory (too lazy to go through the posts!

). But the original point still stands;

However, can you validate the rest of my post on the bottom of page 8 (if you have the posts per page upped to the maxiumum level.), as to whether my theory is correct?

Tefal · 28 Jan 2010 at 14:35

hilly said:
However, can you validate the rest of my post on the bottom of page 8 (if you have the posts per page upped to the maxiumum level.), as to whether my theory is correct?

If you have non default page/post for the love of god just say the post number.

Raikiri · 28 Jan 2010 at 14:36

Duggan said:
As we dont know how can we say that we are the worst race out there. We could be the best. WE DONT KNOW YET

We're both the best and the worst, Schrödinger's cat innit

thevet · 28 Jan 2010 at 16:37

Duggan said:
Believing in something doesnt prove it does it. Thats the point tefal is making which I think you are missing. Also whats to say that other races dont act like we do and kill each other. Clearly you dont know and have no proof so why dont you pipe down until you can provide something that will make sure all shut up and say your correct. For all we know we could be the only life forms about but taking the size of the universe this is unlikely but how do we know without proof. ZOOOOOOMMMMMM

Thats what i believe it dont mean others have to believe it,did i say for one second thats what i know?No i did not its my belief,if i want to speak my opinion i will and nobody will make me pipe down wether its on a forum,physical from or otherwise...

Hilly · 28 Jan 2010 at 17:24

Tefal said:
If you have non default page/post for the love of god just say the post number.

You're the OCUK detective, you figure it out!

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15836400&postcount=639 is a link to the post, interested to get your thoughts on it Angilion

SexyGreyFox · 28 Jan 2010 at 17:56

LabR@t said:
Yes some people are making claims which they cannot know so just ignore them.I am only interested in the possibility that the ancient texts/carvings/reliefs have been interpreted to mean the the coming/return or said planet/comet/asteroid/star. As stated we will all know soon enough if there is any legs in this tale, just let in runs its course and we shall know.

How many times?
One man, just one man decided to translate the Mayan stuff into his own words - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin
This is where the whole story of Nibiru came from.

That is equal to you sitting in the British Museum, looking at Hieroglyphs and deciding everybody is wrong and making your own story up that sounds like Stargate.
There are no legs to this tale, there's not even a toe clipping.

LabR@t · 28 Jan 2010 at 19:06

dmpoole said:
How many times?
One man, just one man decided to translate the Mayan stuff into his own words - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin
This is where the whole story of Nibiru came from.

That is equal to you sitting in the British Museum, looking at Hieroglyphs and deciding everybody is wrong and making your own story up that sounds like Stargate.
There are no legs to this tale, there's not even a toe clipping.

Get your facts right ! epic failure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin

His work was on Sumerians Not Mayans .

NIBIRU IS SUMERIAN I REPEAT IT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH MAYANS

Really makes me laugh all the people who post in this thread who think they got all the answers, at least read up before you post as you will just mislead another load of people.

SexyGreyFox · 28 Jan 2010 at 19:18

LabR@t said:
Get your facts right ! epic failure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin

His work was on Sumerians Not Mayans .

NIBIRU IS SUMERIAN I REPEAT IT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH MAYANS

1 v 0 to you but still 100 v 0 to me.
So what, I got the religion wrong so the only failure is that.
He is still the guy that made his own story up about an undiscovered planet.

Tefal · 28 Jan 2010 at 19:20

LabR@t said:
Get your facts right ! epic failure

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zecharia_Sitchin

His work was on Sumerians Not Mayans .

NIBIRU IS SUMERIAN I REPEAT IT IS NOTHING TO DO WITH MAYANS

Really makes me laugh all the people who post in this thread who think they got all the answers, at least read up before you post as you will just mislead another load of people.

so where dfid you get the 2012 date?