Nice combo deal

Would have to be exceptionally heavy home use for any slightest need for PCIe v4.
Also they need airflow/cooling to actually perform better than PCIe v3 drives, because of running so hot under load.
And in game loading times there's very little difference even between NVMe and SATA drive.

3800X itself, which doesn't really give much any over £35 cheaper 3700X costs £300 separately. (and still lacks real high end cooler to sustain boost clocks)
While 1TB NVMe drive can be gotten for £140
For gaming 3700X with separate good cooler and 1TB TeamGroup MP34 would be better combination for less.
 
EsaT said:
Would have to be exceptionally heavy home use for any slightest need for PCIe v4.
Also they need airflow/cooling to actually perform better than PCIe v3 drives, because of running so hot under load.
And in game loading times there's very little difference even between NVMe and SATA drive.

3800X itself, which doesn't really give much any over £35 cheaper 3700X costs £300 separately. (and still lacks real high end cooler to sustain boost clocks)
While 1TB NVMe drive can be gotten for £140
For gaming 3700X with separate good cooler and 1TB TeamGroup MP34 would be better combination for less.
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What cooler is the cooler to go for? Either air or aio.
 
Scythe Mugen 5 is only step behind the best and as overall package among top with very reasonable size and full clearance for DIMM and PCIe slots.
And really overkill for just 8 core Ryzen.
Though PCGH's slow 800 rpm fans limit performance besides cutting down noise to very little:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/scythe-scmg-5pcgh-mugen-5-pcgh-edition-cpu-cooler-hs-047-sy.html
But for more cooling power when necessary it's easy and cheap to get single Arctic P12 fan.

For just 3700X without upgrades to higher core count models normal size single tower available for good amount less would be enough.

Waterpipe coolers aren't any better in continuous cooling per noise unless going for really big radiator ones.
Because waterpipes in place of heatpipes don't make heat disappear anywhere and while water's heat capacity slots down temperature rise that heat energy has to be always dissipated into air.
For measure of possible surface area that typical slim radiator is 25mm thick, while Mugen 5's finstack reaches 85mm
And without physically breaking it heatpipe cooler can't fail catastrophically/completely.
 
you'll kick yourself when full PCIe 4.0 NVMe controllers are released Q2 or now Q3 . current drives are faster then PCIe 3.0 yes but still can go about 20% faster easily .

also, heads up. shipments and factory production from china will be slow.. so if prices dont go up availability will
 
orbitalwalsh said:
you'll kick yourself when full PCIe 4.0 NVMe controllers are released Q2 or now Q3 . current drives are faster then PCIe 3.0 yes but still can go about 20% faster easily .

also, heads up. shipments and factory production from china will be slow.. so if prices dont go up vailability will
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I'm thinking of buying an Xtreme this month. 3950x in April. And stoage in June at this rate.

It master didnt have a fan and was £50 cheaper I would have bitten by now.
 
lnoton said:
I'm thinking of buying an Xtreme this month. 3950x in April. And stoage in June at this rate.

It master didnt have a fan and was £50 cheaper I would have bitten by now.
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Honestly wouldn't do the Xtreme, not looking at Xtreme TRX40 pricing .. board has triple the PCIe lanes and double the VRM but not double the cost .

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,479.48 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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Now it's a little more but just highlights how expensive the Xtreme is - don't get me wrong it's the best board out there but Master has same VRM set up !

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,661.07 (includes shipping: £11.10)


I can see £1600 for 24 cores and trx40 board, £120 increase over what your planning. £120 extra for 8 more cores .. that's pretty good value , considering 12 core to 16 core is £200 extra...​

Ouch..
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,591.08 (includes shipping: £11.10)


Think as savings missing out on NVMe 4.0 could get you a 24 core monster !​
 
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