Nintendo 3rd ranked gaming company.. look at their sales figures!

slinxy · 25 Apr 2013 at 11:19

Hi

most people myself including would say nintendo are 3rd behind microsoft/sony as a games company now. But I've just seen the up to date sales numbers of their hardware and software and the numbers are crazy!

Some third party developers would love to see their games sell in such numbers across all formats alone on one console.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/index.html

27.88 Million sales for New Super Mario Bros on the wii is just crazy!..

Noxia · 25 Apr 2013 at 11:39

CrayZee

Eliot · 25 Apr 2013 at 13:31

wii sports resort is the most impressive figure imo.

Psycho Sonny · 25 Apr 2013 at 14:23

what has the wii u console sales been like? i mean are the better than the 360 or ps3?

the wii sold a lot simply because it was something different and they managed to hit the market at the right time, sony and ms tried to copy them with move and kinect but were far too late to the ball game.

i wonder how the wii u has fared though, since it has effectively lost the major advantage the wii had of being different.

Moothead2 · 25 Apr 2013 at 16:35

Psycho Sonny said:
what has the wii u console sales been like? i mean are the better than the 360 or ps3?

the wii sold a lot simply because it was something different and they managed to hit the market at the right time, sony and ms tried to copy them with move and kinect but were far too late to the ball game.

i wonder how the wii u has fared though, since it has effectively lost the major advantage the wii had of being different.

They're not great but at the same time they're not all doom and gloom like some people suggest. They've sold 3.5 million apparently which is similar to how many the 360 sold in a similar time frame. As soon as new Mario/Zelda/Metroid titles come out they'll skyrocket in my opinion. At the moment there really isn't a solid reason to own a Wii U which is why it hasn't taken off. The 3DS had a similar problem but has now reportedly shipped over 30 million units now that killer apps like Monster Hunter and Fire Emblem have been released and titles like Pokemon X/Y and a new Zelda have been announced.

slinxy · 25 Apr 2013 at 16:57

I'm personally waiting for the new zelda to be released on the 3ds, then I'll be picking up one up with the game. I'm also planning to get all the back catalogue on virtual console.

I'm a big fan of Zelda, and the IP alone is enough for me to buy a nintendo console.

deusexlumina · 25 Apr 2013 at 17:52

Psycho Sonny said:
what has the wii u console sales been like? i mean are the better than the 360 or ps3?

The wii u isn't doing that well, lets get that out of the way first. However you're making a silly comparison, a console thats been out for 6 months compared to console that have been out over 6 years? look back at the ps3 launch, and you'll see what i mean...

Broken Hope · 25 Apr 2013 at 18:23

I fancy boys said:
The wii u isn't doing that well, lets get that out of the way first. However you're making a silly comparison, a console thats been out for 6 months compared to console that have been out over 6 years? look back at the ps3 launch, and you'll see what i mean...

The PS3 at launch was over £400 in the UK and still sold better than the Wii U has.

Likewise in the US the PS3 was $599 and sales didn't fall below 80k per month, the Wii U has had a month where it sold 57k in the US.

Third party support is usually bad for Nintendo, but it seems even worse, the Wii U isn't even getting the next Fifa game which is telling since EA usually put Fifa on pretty much everything.

Pretty much everything that could have gone wrong with the Wii U has gone wrong, let's see.

-next to no 3rd parties
-ps4/720 are monsters spec wise with all the 3rd parties supporting them
-no 1st party games because of delays
-buggy and slow os
-bad marketing
-bad online service
-digital games linked to hardware and not account
-a lot of consumers still think the gamepad is an addon for the original Wii
-1 year headstart completely wasted

Seriously what were Nintendo doing for the 2 years that they stopped putting out first party games on the Wii? Since we won't be getting another first party game for the Wii U till at least August with Pikmin 3 and that's if we get it around the same time as the US, it could be longer.

deusexlumina · 25 Apr 2013 at 18:37

Broken Hope said:
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If the PS3 launch was stronger than the wii u then fair enough, however it was hardly stellar. My original point remains valid, a comparison between those two consoles at this point in thier lifetime is silly.

Also, if you look at what i said, i'm agreeing with you. It's not doing well, and there are issues that need to be fixed, so i don't really see the point in the rest of your post.

No offense but i think you're just trolling now. Every post you make is just doom and gloom about the console, usually aimed at people who own one like myself. It's not really needed, and its a bit unusual to care so much considering you don't own one yourself.

Noxia · 25 Apr 2013 at 19:33

Yep, has become boring now with the Nintendo is doomed agenda posting. Anyone who has the console is aware of the issues, pointing them out every 5 minutes doesn't help anyone.
Personally I find no issue waiting as there are plenty of 3DS games coming out to satisfy my franchise favourite needs

Mr Men · 25 Apr 2013 at 20:02

If people stopped replying to the broken record he might get bored

Moothead2 · 25 Apr 2013 at 20:07

Mr Men said:
If people stopped replying to the broken record he might get bored

Noxia · 25 Apr 2013 at 20:13

Mr Men said:
If people stopped replying to the broken record he might get bored

Doesn't work, it's actually quite fascinating to witness.

Gimpymoo · 26 Apr 2013 at 11:04

The attachment rate is pants though and despite what others may think, it is third party titles which make or break a platform, in the long term.

First party titles are released, then a giant lull till the next first party game is released.

First party titles should exist to launch and "show off" a platform over time, not be the ONLY titles around.

Also:

http://www.gameplanet.com.au/news/1...operating-loss-wont-hold-E3-press-conference/

That news comes off the back of Nintendo’s second consecutive annual operating loss, this time of ¥36.4 billion.

However, that figure is well up on the company’s last fiscal year’s ¥43 billion net loss, Nintendo's first ever annual operating loss.

"Weaker than expected" sales of 3DS and Wii U were to blame, said Nintendo.

As an extremely casual console gamer (I think that puts me in their majority) their products are over priced and offer very little other than first party titles and their online systems are TERRIBLE.

They are becoming a developer who insist on selling their own hardware to play their games, nobody else can be bothered to make games for their **** hardware for a minimal return, if any.

Reemul · 26 Apr 2013 at 11:27

Gimpymoo said:
The attachment rate is pants though and despite what others may think, it is third party titles which make or break a platform, in the long term.

First party titles are released, then a giant lull till the next first party game is released.

First party titles should exist to launch and "show off" a platform over time, not be the ONLY titles around.

Also:

http://www.gameplanet.com.au/news/1...operating-loss-wont-hold-E3-press-conference/

As an extremely casual console gamer (I think that puts me in their majority) their products are over priced and offer very little other than first party titles and their online systems are TERRIBLE.

They are becoming a developer who insist on selling their own hardware to play their games, nobody else can be bothered to make games for their **** hardware for a minimal return, if any.

Give it a rest Gimpy, it is anything but a **** system, it's comments like that that make you look like you are trolling. So the console isn't for you, whoop de doo, play another but the above is worthless once you start adding some of the rubbish.

For us Wii U owners it sits alongside our other consoles so we have a full choice, sure there needs to be more games but I certainly dont need to see all the crap that appears on the PS3 and 360 (PS4 and 720 either) appear on the Wii U, Nintendo fans mainly want Nintendo games not 3rd party and at the cost of £75 for a second hand console there is no issue if you need more than one console at present.

What we don't want is a 2 horse race, more is better not worse but really all non Nintendo people just want Nintendo on their system which still at present isnt going to happen.

One thing I am really dreading with the new consoles will be the whole fanboy my console is better than yours all over again, bad enough reading some of the rubbish on here as it is let alone waiting for that to happen.

deusexlumina · 26 Apr 2013 at 11:38

Gimpymoo said:
They are becoming a developer who insist on selling their own hardware to play their games, nobody else can be bothered to make games for their **** hardware for a minimal return, if any.

Hard to take you seriously with a statement like that tbh. But of course they insist on using their hardware for their games, why the hell wouldn't they?! Its no different to not seeing halo on playstation, or uncharted on xbox...

Psycho Sonny · 26 Apr 2013 at 11:42

seriously I reckon nintendo has maybe one more console in them after the wii U before they withdraw from the console market. the only thing that ressurected them was the wii and handheld range. i think they should just focus on the handheld market and just license their first party games out to the highest bidder.

this is just my opinion, but i seriously do not see them as a force within the market, had they pushed on from their great success with the wii they would have had a chance, but looks like this console is doomed.

remember when the wii was launched their wasn't a recession and people weren't worried about money, these days they are. a lot of wii's went unused after the initial buzz wore off. only the people who were seriously into mario, zelda, etc kept on playing them throughout the life of the console.

i know mine has been in the attic for several years gathering dust. so if anythign i see sales getting worse not better. the people who wanted one have most likely got it by now.

PLazarou · 26 Apr 2013 at 13:57

Psycho Sonny said:
so if anythign i see sales getting worse not better. the people who wanted one have most likely got it by now.

Assuming you're talking about the Wii U, I don't agree. At the moment, Nintendo haven't given us that many reasons to want one. The game selection is poor. Many people are waiting for a more solid line-up. So far the sales will have been from really hardcore Nintendo enthusiasts who must have each system at launch, those who are just keen to try some new controller tech, and those who are still riding the wave of Wii hype, assuming this is more of the same. Hmmm... wave of Wii... I could have phrased that better.

Unlike the Wii, there is no 'killer app' equivalent to Wii Sports that brought in those initial high sales figures, and it's unlikely there ever will be - the Wii U pad is simply not as revolutionary an idea as the Wii Remote.

So to generate hardware sales, Nintendo is going to have to rely on their traditional successes. People buy Nintendo consoles for the first party software. Yet they still haven't shown a large number of their biggest franchises - we are still waiting for flagship Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Metroid, etc. Once these arrive, you'll see a significant jump in Wii U sales.

Gimpymoo · 26 Apr 2013 at 14:47

Reemul said:
Give it a rest Gimpy, it is anything but a **** system

Maybe so, but the facts are, for the both the Wii and Wii U, the attachment rate is very poor, that is a fact.

Are they "growing" their profitable user base from the Wii, I do not think they are which is not good in their long term.

I fancy boys said:
Hard to take you seriously with a statement like that tbh. But of course they insist on using their hardware for their games, why the hell wouldn't they?! Its no different to not seeing halo on playstation, or uncharted on xbox...

The difference is, third parties flock to those systems offering a much wider appeal to more gamers leading to more game sales leading to more installed units.

Stating the obvious here, but if you do not like the "Nintendo way of gaming"... there is not much reason to buy a Nintendo product.

The Playstation and Xbox do not suffer that same problem.

Sure, Nintendo do have some good original IP's but they alone are not enough to develop a new Nintendo fanbase, I just see them paying lip service to their existing userbase.

The DS and Wii were MASSIVE for them in terms of unit sales yet they failed to make the majority of those customers "long term" Nintendo customers.

Neither the current DS or Wii U offer "bang for buck" in my opinion.

unwashed potato! · 26 Apr 2013 at 14:51

people are shocked when they see wii sports selling so many, but seem to be forgetting it came with the console, there was literally now way of not buying it. i know no one who bought the game on its own and yet they all owned the game.

i bought a wii when it was first released, same sotry back then, absolutely no games came out for it, and they kept teasing us saying party would be out soon, but then delayed and delayed, and when it finally came out, after playing it for a while and being bored there was nothing for ages to follow up but more delays.

i sold mine and have not regretted it one bit. i know many people with a wii which is covered in dust and who have no bother for a wii u as it's bascially exactly the same situation of lame games taking ages to come out.