NIP question

Matt82 · 2 Oct 2012 at 01:05

Where do you stand if you receive an NIP, addressed to you, relating to an alleged speed related offence in a vehicle which you are not the registered owner.

The registered owner, oddly, has been written to as well, on a different date (days apart) but with the same NIP reference. the registered owner has not replied/nominated anyone as the driver. No photo evidence is included.

To top it off, the alleged offence was 64 days before the date of the NIP..

MagicBoy · 2 Oct 2012 at 01:11

If the driver is not the registered keeper, and the registered keeper had not replied/nominated a driver how would the police know who the driver is?

IIRC the NIP has to be sent to the registered keeper within 14 days. Once that is done, they have up to 6 months to prosecute.

Matt82 · 2 Oct 2012 at 01:14

i have no idea. MID database? facial recognition? stab in the dark??

given how long ago it was, i really have absolutely no idea who was driving for that particular journey.

MagicBoy · 2 Oct 2012 at 01:15

Company car?

Matt82 · 2 Oct 2012 at 01:21

the registered owner of the car in the NIP is my other half.

MagicBoy · 2 Oct 2012 at 01:23

Ah, K.

I'd ask over at pepipoo.com.

Matt82 · 2 Oct 2012 at 01:34

its difficult to even reply to their NIP. its a conditional offer. if you dont declare you are the driver then youre looking at a completely different offence.

i genuinely dont know who was.

wonder what would happen if we both admitted to it

MagicBoy · 2 Oct 2012 at 01:36

Is the issue date on the NIP more than 14 days after the alleged offence?

Matt82 · 2 Oct 2012 at 01:49

it is more than 60 days

MagicBoy · 2 Oct 2012 at 01:54

Take a look here : http://www.pepipoo.com/NIP.htm

Fr0dders · 2 Oct 2012 at 02:09

Matt82 said:
the registered owner of the car in the NIP is my other half.

Was she the registered keeper at the time of the offence ?

If so then she is liable for the points unless she can name anybody else. If you genuinely don't know then the responsibility falls to the registered keeper

ChrisD. · 2 Oct 2012 at 06:40

MagicBoy said:
Take a look here : http://www.pepipoo.com/NIP.htm

paradigm · 2 Oct 2012 at 07:01

Matt82 said:
it is more than 60 days

On your copy or her copy, or both?

Matt82 · 2 Oct 2012 at 07:01

MrLOL said:
Was she the registered keeper at the time of the offence ?

If so then she is liable for the points unless she can name anybody else. If you genuinely don't know then the responsibility falls to the registered keeper

Owned it for a few years now, so she was def registered keeper at the time. Gonna have to read s172, surely its not an indefinite time someone can reasonably be expected to know who was driving

Matt82 · 2 Oct 2012 at 07:02

paradigm said:
On your copy or her copy, or both?

Both. One is 62 the other 64

Matt82 · 2 Oct 2012 at 07:03

Remember the car tax rant thread that I made? It was around that time that car was reregistered by the dvla

Fr0dders · 2 Oct 2012 at 22:54

Matt82 said:
Owned it for a few years now, so she was def registered keeper at the time. Gonna have to read s172, surely its not an indefinite time someone can reasonably be expected to know who was driving

Do you still own it ?

If so I can't see any excuse for both your NIPs being so late. You should be able to get out of it on the date if your the still the keeper.

Don't understand why you both got one 2 days apart though ?? Are both your details on the V5 ??

Matt82 · 2 Oct 2012 at 23:36

Her name is on the V5, i am a named driver on her insurance policy.

On 1 July the DVLA re-registered the car due to it being listed as a Volkswagen GTI and the address was updated. The new V5 is dated 30 July 2012. It still took 5-6 weeks for the NIP to show up after that.

The reply has been sent in the post pointing out that it is out of time and that the alleged offence was so long ago I am unable to recall who was driving at the time and requesting further evidence.

Nathan · 3 Oct 2012 at 10:21

Hmmm strange one, you may just get off that.
Please don't fall into the trap on perverting the course though because that is proper squeaky bum time. I can remember quite well who was driving my cars over the last few
Months, time, date, location

Burnsy2023 · 3 Oct 2012 at 10:30

Was the diver (I assume one of the two of you) given a verbal NIP at the roadside or was it a camera?