Nissan Leaf: Future or Failure?

Sorry but are you really using a Citroen C1 for comparisons to a Nissan Leaf? Its two class segments apart. You will never get that 67MPG as a lifecyle average either.

I was using 55mpg, which is attainable in a comparable car.

No one ever declares TOC is cheaper,

Yes they do, often, because they ignore purchase cost and most of the running costs and taxation in order to compare only electricty with petrol + tax + tax as if it was the whole story.

just the fuel and that little thing in people head to feel good about something is enough for some to buy into a niche product.

Which is why I've said before that at the present time an EV is an expensive politicial statement.

You have set yourself on a self styled mission that also ignores residuals, of course that is likely to go in the ICE favour.... but an C1?

Feel free to make a comparison you think is better.

The assumed increase in EV 'juice' duty is unlikely to increase at a a rate higher than petroleum based fuels aswell.

You're arguing that the government will voluntarily lose a vast amount of tax revenue. I'd need a lot more than your statement to find that argument compelling.

Personally, I think they'll find some other way of implementing the tax. Maybe vehicle tracking and tax per mile driven.

Can we also factor in the cost to UK.gov getting involved with petro dollars used in theatres of war to assist the yanks in controlling oil supplies?

If you can support the argument that the UK will stop going to war if enough people use EVs. It's worth bearing in mind that oil is used for many other things as well. Also, switching to EVs will require a huge increase in battery production, so we may just see a switch from oil to lithium. Lots of lithium in Afghanistan, apparently.

Nissan have been claiming costs in the region of $250 - 300/kWh for the battery cell costs on some documents I have seen, but im yet to see that substatiated for the public domain.

It would be impressive if they had managed such a massive reduction in cost, but nobody else is citing that level of cost per KWh except in the context of "we hope prices will go down as far as $300/KWh by 2020" and the last claim I saw was £291 per KWh (the £7000 you claimed for a 24KWh battery). The lowest price I've seen claimed is $9000, i.e. $375 per KWh.
 
It's delayed again! :(

Nissan spokeswoman said:
"An intermittent beeping noise is fitted as standard to commercial vehicles such as buses and lorries, but UK law states that the sound must be capable of being disabled between 11.00pm and 6.00am. The audible system on the Leaf did not allow for that to be done, so the beeping sound is being removed entirely before the cars can be driven on roads in this country."


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Thank god, people should just get used to very quiet cars. Not turn them into a stupid musical band with the same skills as beiber.
 
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