No Android 4.0 update for Galaxy S and first Galaxy Tab

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Nexus18

Nexus18

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And that is exactly why I will never buy a android smart phone that isn't the official google phone again! Unless they sort this xxxx out!

http://www.neowin.net/news/no-android-40-update-for-galaxy-s-and-first-galaxy-tab

Same old, same old xxxx with them all! :rolleyes:

I know that Google have stated along with all the companies that any devices, which receive ICS and are not any older than 18 months will receive every update DEPENDING ON HARDWARE (or something along those lines anyway), but as you can see from this and for others like the desire HD, desire S etc. etc. that aren't getting ICS EITHER, same for the desire and 2.3, same for the galaxy spica and 2.2 (even has 2.3 now thanks to a developer that has completely rewritten code etc. only camera isn't working yet) because according to "them" the hardware isn't good enough........ yet we all know the hardware is perfectly fine, the real reason is cause they are too lazy to support the mobiles they release every month or so and just to push sales of the new ones that cost £300+!

So there is nothing stopping them from saying the same for the likes of the GS 2 when android 5 is out or whatever and the hardware will still be perfectly fine for it along with the sensation etc.

And yes I know that galaxy S owners etc. will get the ICS update through custom ROMs and all, but there are many here now, that cba faffing about with that as there is always some little niggle, whether it be battery drain, GPS locking on terrible, problem with performance etc. etc. however, WE shouldn't have to do this when there are no problems with the hardware and new updates!


Google have pretty much improved everything for android and the OS is much better now thanks to ICS, the main thing, which they need to make their main priority is the fragmentation (the updates for mobiles) and try to do some sort of deal to get more companies like Samsung, HTC etc. to sell the mobiles as pure stock android [which also means getting updates OTA and as soon as they are available pretty much and not having to worry as to if it will receive it officially]] (never going to happen though :() or at least have some of the top end mobiles with stock android and some with their xxxxwiz etc. or something similar.
 
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Is this because ICS only supports capacitive buttons, leaving the physical buttons redundant? Users with small screens would end up losing screen real estate.

I also believe this is an issue Google does want to address. Doing something similar to Windows mobile where manufacturers have to meet a minimum specification standard to get Android.

But this kind of thing does annoy me. I got the Desire not long after the release and the updates didn't even last 18 months. Great for people on 24 month contracts.
 
Nope that shouldn't be the case at all. IIRC the buttons on the GN are actually part of the screen, capacitive and hardware buttons like the GS 2, sensation, nexus s (already got ICS), desire etc. should not be an issue, they simply remove the bottom 3 touch screen buttons.

Google may want to, however the companies like Samsung, HTC etc. I am sure won't, as obviously people will want to get the mobiles that have the latest versions and if there are options like the desire etc. that cost around £130 brand new etc. then not many people will buy the new £400+ mobiles.

If google really does want this to be solved, they are going to have to have a firm hand and make it clear that if a company CBA supporting their products, then it is simple, they don't get to use the android OS on any of their devices unless they agree and sign contracts etc. saying that they will support devices no matter what and do their best to bring the new updates to as many devices as possible or something like that. And lets face it is not like HTC, Samsung etc. really have a choice, as android is the most popular OS now and sells LOADS of devices every day, lets just put it this way, they don't accept the T&C, then no android and they loose a lot of money/sales then! :p The only option that they are left with is windows 7!

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And of course, then there will be far too many devices for them to support, which means more time and money is lost and is spread out across 15+ devices as opposed to 5.

As we all know mobile tech. is vastly improving and the amount of new mobiles every few months is outstanding, especially the amount Samsung release.
 
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NEVER!!!!


:p

The only other smartphone I would consider is a windows 7 device.


But you have to admit it really is a complete and utter joke their excuses that they use to mangle their way out of updating devices. I would rather they just tell the truth and say out right, "we CBA updating our old devices and plus if we do, then the sales for our new top end £400+ devices will be affected"
 
I don't have the galaxy S :( Just posted this to have a rant about the whole official update stuff :p and to let galaxy s owners know.

I know, as I said above, no problem that rooting etc. but I personally I hate it now, always some wee annoying niggle, going through the process of flashing a kernel, ROM etc. and watching the boot screen, hoping that nothing has gone wrong etc. :p

But the more important thing and the main principle of it, is why should users of the slightly older devices have to do this?
 
You can't expect them to keep updating older phones for ages after release, that's not how a business works. Galaxy S would be 2 years old by the time they'd developed ICS for it, why would they still keep updating a product someone bought 2 years ago as if it was a brand new flagship model? You say it as if they just need to press a button and it's done, it takes time and they have to pay people to do it. Time is money! It would also delay development of new devices and updates for recently released phones, so not worth it IMO. I can completely understand updating a phone that's maybe 1 year old... but not much more than that. Phones move on MUCH more quickly than PC's these days, you can't expect an OS to be "one size fits all" for years and years at a time, as the hardware moves on so does the software.

You also dismiss the custom ROM's so quickly... many are BRILLIANT and a better job than the official updates anyway. Yes there are bugs SOMETIMES but on the whole they are a good thing and you can always wait for a more stable version, which would still be quicker to you than if a manufacturer was doing it!
 
I know I know....

However considering most people (the average joes) would still have a galaxy S, desire and one of the other top end single core mobiles still, which are perfectly capable of supporting ics and probably not upgrading for another few months, I think should be getting ics due to that and heck if the nexus S gets ICS then why the hell can't the galaxy S, they are pretty much exactly the same hardware.....

Don't forget as well, the majority of contracts are now 18 months, and a few 24 months (all of 3s are 24 months now), so I personally think think that they should be supported for at least 15 months, very min. and receive every update even if there are 5 much better more expensive mobiles out unless the hardware really isn't capable.

And I guess that is why it is even more important for google to take a firm approach towards samsung, HTC etc. to drop the skins especially now considering stock android is far better looking and feature wise than all current skins e.g. sense, touchwiz and OS e.g. IOS IMO.

Not only would it mean less work for the companies, but less money and time put into rewriting some of stock android and adding their stuff to it, but also much better market apps as developers would only have to cater for one really instead of having to tweak the code to suit all types, and of course more polished apps.

And yes I know that custom ROMs are great and generally are much better than stock ROMs, I know that better than anyone here :p as my spica on stock is terrible, however is much better with custom ROMs. However I and I know others like jimlad hate having to root and all, as it does get tiresome, especially when you run into problems, which then means another flash, another wipe, reinstall apps etc etc. (I don't like restoring backups as I find that causes a lot more problems)

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I agree, it's stupid and annoying :(

Alas though, there is a solution, so at this point it's not really a major issue.
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True, at least we can get it one way or another, better than nothing at all!
 
Old? The SGS was released the same time as the iPhone 4 (1.5 Years ago) and is still being sold in the UK :eek:

So, with Android you can become a glorified beta tester with a Nexus phone or risk not getting any major updates at all! :(

...or just buy a Sony. Even the cheap ass 3" Xperia Mini with sweet FA internal storage is getting ICS in March. :D

(Edit: I'm sure Samsung will be doing some backtracking over the next few weeks)
 
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(Edit: I'm sure Samsung will be doing some backtracking over the next few weeks)
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Hard to say really, to me they come across as a company that don't give a toss about support really, release far too many devices and probably have a hard time updating the new ones as it is.

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HTC will update these phones to ICS, they're just not part of the first batch (which are always going to be newer phones)
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O right! :eek:

I thought HTC said they wouldn't be updating any mobiles released before the sensation to ICS due to the hardware?
 
I have both the sgs and the sgt, im kinda gutted not one of them will be updated to ics but they have been updated to 2.3.6 on GB so it's not a total loss. Let's not forget the i9001 which was released not 6 months ago, also not gettin ICS, now i'd be ticked off.
 
the nexus one ain't getting ICS either - how about that for a nexus phone.


plus I don't thing ICS will make F.A. difference on the galaxy s after Samsung has skinned it all up. Will probably look and feel the same as gingerbread.
 
Yeah, remember reading that a while ago, although is that not more so because the phone wasn't actually that successful/many users due to it only being available in America and even then there was pretty much no advertising what so ever and was limited to where you could buy the phone and limited to certain networks?

The desire was the one, which pretty much everyone went for.

Either way, it should have been updated as well, if apple can update the 3GS with the latest stuff, then surely google can do the same for their mobiles.


On a side note:

Personally I think the nexus one is still the best looking mobile to date, just love the look of it and is still a great wee device!
 
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