No bbc iplayer for 360

doesnt bother me all that much really - already have it on my ps3. and my wii. and my virgin box....and my laptop.

That MS though, money grabbing swines:p
 
Surprise surprise...no money in it for MS = no deal. Tis a shame because compared to my PS3 my 360 feels like its being deliberately held back and crippled just because MS can't see their way to providing even a few useful things without looking for more cash.
 
MS are a joke. Why do they find it so hard to just provide the service to silver members as well? We are paying TV licenses. Any opportunity to get more Gold subscriptions/cash.
 
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im amazed that sony can still keep the option for free multiplayer after all this time. Microsoft could do it if they wanted (same as nintendo and sony) but they just dont want to.
 
im amazed that sony can still keep the option for free multiplayer after all this time. Microsoft could do it if they wanted (same as nintendo and sony) but they just dont want to.

To be fair there's evidence out there to suggest that Sonys free MP is hurting them (given the obvious strain on their infrastructure when a new BIG game hits) but still yeh, totally agree with you in principle. I think maybe its fair to charge something to get really good online facilities or major enhancements but to look to charge for every sodding thing or just not offer the functionality if it doesn't fit your profit model is ott in my view.

But, as said, thats good ole MS for you!
 
To be fair there's evidence out there to suggest that Sonys free MP is hurting them (given the obvious strain on their infrastructure when a new BIG game hits) but still yeh, totally agree with you in principle. I think maybe its fair to charge something to get really good online facilities or major enhancements but to look to charge for every sodding thing or just not offer the functionality if it doesn't fit your profit model is ott in my view.

But, as said, thats good ole MS for you!

Live is not exactly fantastic when a big game hits either. In fact many times it's gone down completely. I think PSN does damn good considering.
 
Live is not exactly fantastic when a big game hits either. In fact many times it's gone down completely. I think PSN does damn good considering.

Exactly thats what ****s me off the most. So many live games are rubbish when they launch and so many aren't ever fixed. Paying for a lagged up service peer to peer. How the hell do they get away with it, it's like buying your food from tesco and then tesco charging you for using your own car to get it home.

I wouldn't mind live being **** 9 games out of 10 if it was free.

No surprised at all with the Iplayer being shelved, even if you want to give something away MS don't like it.
 
To be fair there's evidence out there to suggest that Sonys free MP is hurting them (given the obvious strain on their infrastructure when a new BIG game hits) but still yeh, totally agree with you in principle. I think maybe its fair to charge something to get really good online facilities or major enhancements but to look to charge for every sodding thing or just not offer the functionality if it doesn't fit your profit model is ott in my view.

But, as said, thats good ole MS for you!

I think they're currently in discussions about adding a Subscription based service but nothing to do with the Multiplayer, they should bring a rental system out for the PSN titles and movies.

as to the main topic, hardly surprised. Everyone knows you need Gold if you want to get the full 360 package.
 
“Microsoft only wants to offer its users access to platforms it can charge for as this is the model it is pursuing. It wants to ensure that only those paying for Xbox Live Gold accounts can access its additional content services and even then there is usually a charge on top to get access to those. For example, to access the Sky Player on Xbox, you have to pay for a Gold subscription as well as a Sky subscription,” explained one of the sources close to the BBC.


CONveniently, the source forgot to mention that we also need to pay the forced subscription of the BBC before we can get Sky or use an xbox on our TV's in the first place.
 
CONveniently, the source forgot to mention that we also need to pay the forced subscription of the BBC before we can get Sky or use an xbox on our TV's in the first place.

probably because it presumes people over the age of five already know this. Besides:

The BBC cannot charge the British public for access to the iPlayer as it is already included in the licence fee
 
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Not too bothered by the lack of it but Microsoft look like absolute morons for not putting it in all Live packages, do they see how retarded they look trying to charge us for what is almost literally a public service.
 
im amazed that sony can still keep the option for free multiplayer after all this time. Microsoft could do it if they wanted (same as nintendo and sony) but they just dont want to.

Developers/Publishers have to pay the bandwidth cost for online gaming on PSN.
Which is why Activision have threatened to pull out of developing on the PS3 platform, as they've actually made a loss on PS3 MW1 (Money gen through sales minus bandwidth costs) now thanks to the ammount they've had to pay out in bandwidth for online play. If MS Had the same model for online gaming, then its safe to say we wouldnt of seen MW2 released.


Live is not exactly fantastic when a big game hits either. In fact many times it's gone down completely. I think PSN does damn good considering.

Other then Xmas 08 Live has never been down for me (Outside of maintence) and lag is always at a complete minimum .. except for L4D2 that is, but that was valves fault, and im always online :O
MW1, 2 release was flawless, and it doesnt get much bigger then MW2 in the online gaming world atm.


As for the comments about charging for the Sky player stuff, yeah its gold only - fair enough. But the additional costs? You know this is set by Sky right? as the costs exactly mirror the costs required to access the player on a PC too.
 
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Which is why Activision have threatened to pull out of developing on the PS3 platform, as they've actually made a loss on PS3 MW1 (Money gen through sales minus bandwidth costs) now thanks to the ammount they've had to pay out in bandwidth for online play.

What? Have you got a source for this?

If MS Had the same model for online gaming, then its safe to say we wouldnt of seen MW2 released.

You really think that the only reason MW2 was released was because of Microsoft's policy on charging for Xbox Live? :p :D
Developers and publishers have historically always footed the bill and provided the match making/master server lists servers for their games; it's never been a problem nor has it stopped them making sequels in the past. :p
 
Developers/Publishers have to pay the bandwidth cost for online gaming on PSN.
Which is why Activision have threatened to pull out of developing on the PS3 platform, as they've actually made a loss on PS3 MW1 (Money gen through sales minus bandwidth costs) now thanks to the ammount they've had to pay out in bandwidth for online play. If MS Had the same model for online gaming, then its safe to say we wouldnt of seen MW2 released.

What are you talking about? You're getting mixed up with the developer overhead fees. Sony charge developers bandwidth for their products dowloaded from the PSN Store. COD4 didn't even have a demo so it is extremely unlikely MW2 wouldn't be developed if Live was the same lol.
 
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