Noctua NH-D15, 2080Ti and 8700k

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Will I be able to get good overclocks with the above cooler? Or should I go for the kraken x62? I’m worried about the heat spreading to the GPU too considering the case is relatively small for a midi case (meshify c).
 
I've got a meshify. Have you replaced the stock fans? I did that last week and dropped case internal temps by 10c at idle. The stock fans aren't strong enough to pull cool air through the mesh.
 
Unseul said:
I've got a meshify. Have you replaced the stock fans? I did that last week and dropped case internal temps by 10c at idle. The stock fans aren't strong enough to pull cool air through the mesh.
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Well that doesn’t answer my question but useful information nonetheless! Which fans did you change to and are they quiet?
 
Phanteks 140mm 140mp i think it is. On my phone atm. Overclockers do twin pack for £16. Very good pressure ratings and very quiet compared to other fans that can produce those pressure ratings (quieter than stock fans and a nicer sound too).

If I'm thinking correctly the d15 is basically the best air cooler out there and easily as capable as most water coolers and quieter. A well made custom loop will beat it for extreme overclocking but will cost a lot more.

Water or air cooler, they both need fresh air to work, hence the need for the fan replacements.

Meshify isalso very compact so may not easily fit a custom loop.
 
Unseul said:
If I'm thinking correctly the d15 is basically the best air cooler out there and easily as capable as most water coolers and quieter. A well made custom loop will beat it for extreme overclocking but will cost a lot more.
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As far as I understand it its currently a toss between Noctua's D15 and Be Quiet's Dark Rock Pro 4 for air cooling so spikerules you might want to look into this one too if you are going for air cooling.
 
You've got two very high-energy components there, looking at 4-500W heat to dissipate from a small case. Good airflow planning will be needed, and good/right number of fans are part of that. The D15 is an excellent start, as mentioned the bequiet! cooler is also very good.

It won't hurt your components to build the rig and test it, then experiment/tweak to optimise airflow. I'm obsessed with quietness so I tend to swap things around until I have the ideal noise/temperature balance. First I do the fan layout and measure temperatures at a fixed speed in all cases. Then I adjust the fan curves to set the exact maximum temperature at acceptable noise levels.
 
LuckyBenski said:
You've got two very high-energy components there, looking at 4-500W heat to dissipate from a small case. Good airflow planning will be needed, and good/right number of fans are part of that. The D15 is an excellent start, as mentioned the bequiet! cooler is also very good.

It won't hurt your components to build the rig and test it, then experiment/tweak to optimise airflow. I'm obsessed with quietness so I tend to swap things around until I have the ideal noise/temperature balance. First I do the fan layout and measure temperatures at a fixed speed in all cases. Then I adjust the fan curves to set the exact maximum temperature at acceptable noise levels.
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This is the thing. I need it to be as quiet as possible for video editing! But I also need to work it well with a good overclock!
 
spikerules said:
This is the thing. I need it to be as quiet as possible for video editing! But I also need to work it well with a good overclock!
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You literally want everything - noise, size, energy consumption and temperature are all so closely related. You'll probably have to accept high (safe) temperatures and moderate clocks, and even then I'd recommend a bigger case. But if you've already purchased, build first and you'll have a better idea of how achievable it is!

I spent ages thinking "small is better" and would also be quieter, before I realised that air is what a computer needs.

Is the overclock for gaming? You could accept lower clocks for lower noise when editing, then overclock when playing.
 
LuckyBenski said:
You literally want everything - noise, size, energy consumption and temperature are all so closely related. You'll probably have to accept high (safe) temperatures and moderate clocks, and even then I'd recommend a bigger case. But if you've already purchased, build first and you'll have a better idea of how achievable it is!

I spent ages thinking "small is better" and would also be quieter, before I realised that air is what a computer needs.

Is the overclock for gaming? You could accept lower clocks for lower noise when editing, then overclock when playing.
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I need a lower size of case as it needs to go in the living room and the wife doesn’t want it to look ugly.

I need a cpu and GPU overclock for editing in Resolve, which is very GPU intensive and to some extent very cpu intensive also.

I’d be willing to even put the OC to keep noise and temps down. I’m not looking to push it to 5Ghz. Maybe a 4.8?

As for the GPU it’s a 2080Ti and apparently very good on OC potential if Nvidia are to be believed?

And again I’d not need an instance oc. Just better than stock.

What is even a good to average OC on the 8700k?
 
The phanteks have a relatively deep hum when spinning fast, so not terrible. You can set one to blow over the cpu and one to the gpu, may be able to link to each of their temps as well.

My 2700x build with phanteks is silent whilst just browsing etc, and with an improved cpu cooler I'd imagine will be reasonably quiet even under load. As LuckyBenski said you'll need to test everything and find the mix of noise, temps and OC that fits your needs.
 
spikerules said:
Will I be able to get good overclocks with the above cooler? Or should I go for the kraken x62? I’m worried about the heat spreading to the GPU too considering the case is relatively small for a midi case (meshify c).
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D15 is one of the best coolers available, but depending on what motherboard you have it might reach too far toward and cover PCIe sockets .. and depending on how tall your RAM is it might interfer
with fan fitting in space between RAM and case. NH-D15S is not as wide and with only 1x fan has not RAM clearance issues and only raise temps by 1-2c. There are many other very good air cooelrs all better then X62 wPth some are lower priced than D15 and D15S. Probably the very best is Le Grand Macho. Thermalright also makes TRUE Spirit 140 Power that is also very good, clears RAM but is very tall (172mm) and wide like D15.

As Useul said, many cases do not have decent case fans and even when they do have good fans they often need more.

What case and motherboard do you have?
 
doyll said:
D15 is one of the best coolers available, but depending on what motherboard you have it might reach too far toward and cover PCIe sockets .. and depending on how tall your RAM is it might interfer
with fan fitting in space between RAM and case. NH-D15S is not as wide and with only 1x fan has not RAM clearance issues and only raise temps by 1-2c. There are many other very good air cooelrs all better then X62 wPth some are lower priced than D15 and D15S. Probably the very best is Le Grand Macho. Thermalright also makes TRUE Spirit 140 Power that is also very good, clears RAM but is very tall (172mm) and wide like D15.

As Useul said, many cases do not have decent case fans and even when they do have good fans they often need more.

What case and motherboard do you have?
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Thanks for the reply! My case will either be the Asrock Z370 Taichi or Killer gaming one. Most likely the Taichi.
 
spikerules said:
Thanks for the reply! My case will either be the Asrock Z370 Taichi or Killer gaming one. Most likely the Taichi.
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Those are motherboards. What case?

Another good cooler only a few degrees warmer is Thermalright's new ARO-M14. I haven't used one because I don't have a Ryzen system, but I have used the Macho Rev. B and other HR-02 / Macho coolers. They cool well and very quietly.
 
doyll said:
Those are motherboards. What case?

Another good cooler only a few degrees warmer is Thermalright's new ARO-M14. I haven't used one because I don't have a Ryzen system, but I have used the Macho Rev. B and other HR-02 / Macho coolers. They cool well and very quietly.
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I’m not going Ryzen I’m going 8700k, but I assume it supports both? Also I’ve mentioned he case in my opening post. Meshify c. Sorry I was in a queue when typing the reply and had to do it quickly! I mean motherboard, not case. I didn’t list a case because I’d already mentioned it.
 
spikerules said:
I’m not going Ryzen I’m going 8700k, but I assume it supports both? Also I’ve mentioned he case in my opening post. Meshify c. Sorry I was in a queue when typing the reply and had to do it quickly! I mean motherboard, not case. I didn’t list a case because I’d already mentioned it.
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My bad. No, ARO-M14 only has AM4 mount. Thermalright Macho HR-02 Rev. B has both Intel and AMD mounts. Meshify has 172mm CPU clearance .. I don't know of any cooler taller than that.
 
Doyll knows a ludicrous amount about fans and coolers :D, he recommended the phanteks to me. I would also add, again Doyll led, that you remove all the PCIe slot covers at the back, it allows much more airflow under the GPU.

The GPU can definitely leak air to the CPU, the CPU to GPU is almost impossible I'd have thought, I plan on closing off the top of my meshify, and placing a 120mm exhaust fan, just to help ensure the airflow is smooth as possible and running free.

I'm also planning on testing isolating the CPU and GPU. basically a piece of card resting on the back of the GPU and top of the bottom 140mm fan. It might not do much, but equally it may help airflow from each fan, and also prevent GPU heating CPU.
 
Unseul said:
Doyll knows a ludicrous amount about fans and coolers :D, he recommended the phanteks to me. I would also add, again Doyll led, that you remove all the PCIe slot covers at the back, it allows much more airflow under the GPU.

The GPU can definitely leak air to the CPU, the CPU to GPU is almost impossible I'd have thought, I plan on closing off the top of my meshify, and placing a 120mm exhaust fan, just to help ensure the airflow is smooth as possible and running free.

I'm also planning on testing isolating the CPU and GPU. basically a piece of card resting on the back of the GPU and top of the bottom 140mm fan. It might not do much, but equally it may help airflow from each fan, and also prevent GPU heating CPU.
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Wouldn’t taking all the pci slot covers off increase noise and dust? How are you finding it?

I’m also seriously considering delid and relid of the cpu!
 
Dust isn't going to come in from the side too much and with good intakes the case will be pushing air out of those slots.

If I can keep things cooler then it keeps things quieter, is the approach I'm taking.
 
What Unseul said.
It's all about having good case airflow that is moving heated exhaust air from components back and out of case without it mixing with and warming the cool intake air .. because every degree warmer the air is into coolers translates into almost exactly the same degree hotter component runs. Below is link to a basic guide to airflow and setting up good case airflow.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...-i-put-my-temp-sensor.18564223/#post-26159770
 
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