Not sure which to get out of these two systems

[Sneblot]

So it's been a while (14 years) since I went shopping for pc parts. I've included two baskets here, one with a 5080 and the other with a 9070, though I'm not sure which one would suit me more. I plan on playing games such as Cities: Skylines 2, Battlefield 6, Forever Winter and Manor Lords to give a couple of examples.

My current monitor is 1440, though I plan on upgrading it within the next year or two. I'm open to constructive feedback on all the parts I have selected, as I'm going with brands I have previous experience with, which I appreciate might not be the best or most affordable anymore. Any help would be most appreciated.

My 5080 basket at OcUK:

• 1 x CORSAIR SF Series SF1000 Fully Modular 80 PLUS Platinum SFX Power Supply (SKU: POW-CRS-02470) = £199.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £399.95
• 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III PRO High Performance All In One CPU Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-ARC-04932) = £84.95
• 1 x Asus ROG STRIX B850-I GAMING WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Mini ITX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03843) = £309.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 96GB (2X48GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-03746) = £359.99
• 1 x Lian Li A3 mATX Wood Edition - Black (SKU: CAS-LIA-02630) = £69.95
• 2 x Samsung 990 Evo PLUS 4TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 / 5.0 Hybrid NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-SAM-03392) = £364.99
• 1 x MSI GeForce RTX 5080 Ventus 3X OC Plus 16GB GDDR7 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-MSI-04046) = £1,099.99
• 1 x NVIDIA Game Bundle - Arc Raiders Deluxe Edition PLUS Astro Cosmetic Pack (SKU: DIG-NVI-06436) = £0.00

Total: £3,254.80 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

or

My 9070 basket at OcUK:

• 1 x CORSAIR SF Series SF1000 Fully Modular 80 PLUS Platinum SFX Power Supply (SKU: POW-CRS-02470) = £199.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £399.95
• 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III PRO High Performance All In One CPU Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-ARC-04932) = £84.95
• 1 x Asus ROG STRIX B850-I GAMING WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Mini ITX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-ASU-03843) = £309.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 96GB (2X48GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-03746) = £359.99
• 1 x Lian Li A3 mATX Wood Edition - Black (SKU: CAS-LIA-02630) = £69.95
• 2 x Samsung 990 Evo PLUS 4TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 / 5.0 Hybrid NVMe Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-SAM-03392) = £364.99
• 1 x Sapphire Nitro + Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming OC 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-03987) = £629.99

Total: £2,784.79 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Quartz]

Why do you need two PSUs? The games you play don't seem to feature heavy RT, so you might as well save £500 and put that towards a monitor.

 

[Sneblot]

Why do you need two PSUs? The games you play don't seem to feature heavy RT, so you might as well save £500 and put that towards a monitor.

Good spot. I won't need two PSUs haha will redo the baskets to show updated totals

Would a 9070XT be able to drive a 4k monitor and play the games I like to play at full whack?

 

[Tetras]

The 5080 is about ~25% faster at 4K in raster (I say that, if/when you upgrade the monitor to a higher res than 1440p), though it can be higher than that with ray tracing enabled.

It depends on the game though, sometimes the 9070 XT is more competitive.

If you're happy with "good enough" performance and upgrading the card in 3-4 years (or when you do the monitor), then I'd just get the cheaper one. Dumping £1K on a 5080, when the Super replacement will get 8GB more VRAM is not something I'd be very keen on either.

 

[Sneblot]

The 5080 is about ~25% faster at 4K in raster (I say that, if/when you upgrade the monitor to a higher res than 1440p), though it can be higher than that with ray tracing enabled.

It depends on the game though, sometimes the 9070 XT is more competitive.

If you're happy with "good enough" performance and upgrading the card in 3-4 years (or when you do the monitor), then I'd just get the cheaper one. Dumping £1K on a 5080, when the Super replacement will get 8GB more VRAM is not something I'd be very keen on either.

Thanks for the advice, it hadn't occurred to me about a possible super coming out. going for the less expensive of the two would mean that I could also look at building a NAS as I'm going to be down sizing from a full size tower, and would like to get a smaller jonsbo case to pop on a shelf in the lounge.

 

[Tetras]

going for the less expensive of the two would mean that I could also look at building a NAS as I'm going to be down sizing from a full size tower

There's also quite a few easy savings in your build if that's something you're prepared to do. The A3 doesn't need SFX PSUs, for example and the Phanteks AMP GH 850 would save you money, though if you're sticking with the AIO instead of a cheaper freezer 36/peerless assassin you'd need to check the GPU length supported by the case with the Phanteks. The A3 also supports MATX instead of ITX, which could make another £100-£150 saved.

 

[Sneblot]

Here is an updated basket:

My updated 9070 basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £399.95
• 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer III PRO High Performance All In One CPU Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-ARC-04932) = £84.95
• 1 x Gigabyte B850M AORUS ELITE WIFI6E ICE (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-GIG-03860) = £184.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO/XMP 96GB (2X48GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-03746) = £359.99
• 2 x WD Black SN850X 4TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS400T2X0E) (SKU: HD-592-WD) = £269.98
• 1 x Sapphire Nitro + Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming OC 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-03987) = £629.99
• 1 x Lian Li A3 mATX Wood Edition - Black (SKU: CAS-LIA-02630) = £69.95
• 1 x CORSAIR SF Series SF750 Fully Modular 80 PLUS Platinum SFX Power Supply (SKU: POW-CRS-02468) = £154.99

Total: £2,424.78 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[dave28]

The main thing that jumps out is the £360 for RAM

Most still use 32GB and this £150 kit would be fine I think and saves you £210

TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black​

 

[MissChief]

The main thing that jumps out is the £360 for RAM

Most still use 32GB and this £150 kit would be fine I think and saves you £210

TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C30 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black​

And even if it's not enough, jumping up to a 48GB Kit would be preferable to spending that much on 96GB, half of which might as well die of old age before being put to any meaningful use.

 

[Tetras]

Here is an updated basket:

Here's an alternative including some of the stuff I mentioned, note that the RAM might need downclocking to 6000 with XMP enabled:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £399.95
• 1 x Sapphire Nitro+ B850M WiFi (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-SPR-05690) = £139.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 128GB (2X64GB) XMP DDR5 PC5-44800C42 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-05348) = £399.95
• 1 x Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-03983) = £560.00
• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus 7300 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-GIG-05732) = £119.99
• 1 x Team Group MP44L 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-TMG-03129) = £99.94
• 1 x Lian Li A3 mATX Wood Edition - Black (SKU: CAS-LIA-02630) = £69.94
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 850W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02519) = £104.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02665) = £29.99

Total: £1,936.73 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

Most still use 32GB and this £150 kit would be fine I think and saves you £210

I assume is 'cos the OP plays modded Skylines.

 

[Quartz]

1 x Corsair Vengeance 128GB (2X64GB) XMP DDR5 PC5-44800C42 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-05348) = £399.95

That might require a BIOS update.

 

[Sneblot]

Here's an alternative including some of the stuff I mentioned, note that the RAM might need downclocking to 6000 with XMP enabled:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £399.95
• 1 x Sapphire Nitro+ B850M WiFi (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-SPR-05690) = £139.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance 128GB (2X64GB) XMP DDR5 PC5-44800C42 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-05348) = £399.95
• 1 x Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-03983) = £560.00
• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus 7300 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-GIG-05732) = £119.99
• 1 x Team Group MP44L 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-TMG-03129) = £99.94
• 1 x Lian Li A3 mATX Wood Edition - Black (SKU: CAS-LIA-02630) = £69.94
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 850W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02519) = £104.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-02665) = £29.99

Total: £1,936.73 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

I assume is 'cos the OP plays modded Skylines.

Yes, both modded skylines, KSP and KSA when that comes out.