nvidia 3d surround query

[Zuban]

This is more out of curiousity than anything else but have been doing some digging and havent turned up the answers i'm looking for yet.

my current setup is

ati 6950 (6970 unlocked)
i7 3930k
16gb ram
3 x lg w2363d 120hz 3d monitors.

Firstly i havent found if the lg w2363d is compatible with nvidia 3d vision 2 and its extra features.

Secondly what graphics card would i require to get the best out of it, would like two options, one for happily running games in 3d on just one monitor, and one for running 3d games across all three monitors.

whatever card is reccomended will need to be able to drive all 3 screens as i do mostly 3d modelling/rendering/content creation.

Lastly does anyone here use the 3d vision, is it worth it?

 

[mrh2019]

I'm sorry but the LG monitor is not compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision.

With the setup you have you will have to go down the AMD version of 3D.

 

[Rusty0611]

3D across 3 monitors and you're looking at 2*670's / 680's at the minimum. I'm not sure if it even works. Perhaps someone with 3 120hz 3D monitors can help you.

You might possibly even need 3 cards. Doesn't really get more GPU intensive than that.

For 3D on one monitor, if you're happy to sacrifice some settings in the games which are pretty GPU intensive anyway (e.g. BF3, Metro, Witcher 2) then you can get a nice frame rate with 1 670/680.

I game in 3D sometimes and although it doesn't replace normal gaming I feel it's worth it. I really like it and it can re-invigorate older games (e.g. L4D2 which looks superb)

 

[bee]

I'm sorry but the LG monitor is not compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision.

With the setup you have you will have to go down the AMD version of 3D.

it is compatible with 3D vision, just not the 2nd version with lightboost, i run 3 of those monitors myself in 3D surround

as is said above though, minimum spec you need is 670sli which is what i run, a LOT of games are playable maxed out in 3D surround, don't listen to people with no experience of it, played max payne 3, sonic generations, batman arkham asylum all fine

 

[Zuban]

thanks guys, the 670/680 was what i was thinking, will one of those cards run the three screens ok in 2d only, and be fine for 3d gaming on one screen?, that way i could get another later on for sli to enjoy 3d surround.

bee - how do you find playing for long periods of time? am i right in thinking there isnt much difference between 3d vision 1 and 2 other than the lightboost?.

 

[whyscotty]

3D across 3 monitors and you're looking at 2*670's / 680's at the minimum. I'm not sure if it even works. Perhaps someone with 3 120hz 3D monitors can help you.

You might possibly even need 3 cards. Doesn't really get more GPU intensive than that.

For 3D on one monitor, if you're happy to sacrifice some settings in the games which are pretty GPU intensive anyway (e.g. BF3, Metro, Witcher 2) then you can get a nice frame rate with 1 670/680.

I game in 3D sometimes and although it doesn't replace normal gaming I feel it's worth it. I really like it and it can re-invigorate older games (e.g. L4D2 which looks superb)

+1

Have been trying all sorts of set ups to try and run 3D surround and what I've found is you'll need 3 cards. Then pops up the old argument/discussion of Vram requirements ie 2 v 4gb,others have more knowledge on this subject so hopefully somene will advise you even better. Just my 2 cents

 

[bee]

thanks guys, the 670/680 was what i was thinking, will one of those cards run the three screens ok in 2d only, and be fine for 3d gaming on one screen?, that way i could get another later on for sli to enjoy 3d surround.

bee - how do you find playing for long periods of time? am i right in thinking there isnt much difference between 3d vision 1 and 2 other than the lightboost?.

1 card is enough for triple screen 2D or single screen 3D yes, 1 thing to note though is you will need a dual link dvi to displayport adaptor (£75!) to run 3 x 120hz monitors off 1 card, with 2 cards you dont need the adaptor

3D vision is not for everyone, it really is a try for yourself kind of thing. been using mine for over 2 years now and whilst i certainly don't play every game in 3D i do still use it on a weekly basis. longest i've played in 1 sitting was around 3 hours and i suffered no ill effects from it. if you have those 3 monitors already theres zero point in upgrading for very marginally better 3D performance, those LG monitors actually give me a better experience in 3D than my old, much more expensive benq 2410t

 

[Rusty0611]

it is compatible with 3D vision, just not the 2nd version with lightboost, i run 3 of those monitors myself in 3D surround

as is said above though, minimum spec you need is 670sli which is what i run, a LOT of games are playable maxed out in 3D surround, don't listen to people with no experience of it, played max payne 3, sonic generations, batman arkham asylum all fine

Try BF3 and let us know how you get on in 3D surround. You ain't maxing it.

thanks guys, the 670/680 was what i was thinking, will one of those cards run the three screens ok in 2d only, and be fine for 3d gaming on one screen?, that way i could get another later on for sli to enjoy 3d surround.

Depends on the game and what you deem acceptable. In a lot of games, 1 680 will handle 3 1080p screens at maximum settings OK. In others, SLI is a minimum to get nice image quality and decent frame rates. Plus I personally wouldn't buy a 2GB VRAM card to drive 3 screens. I think you can get away with it with today's games but there are combinations which will make you hit the VRAM ceiling at 5760*1080

 

[Zuban]

Thanks Bee, i think you've pretty much answered what i wanted to know, last query regarding the dual link dvi adaptor, is that to run the screens at 120hz? if they were run in 60hz is the dual link adapter needed?, I have an active displayport to single link dvi adapter that i use to run the third screen from my 6950 at the moment if that could be used, i'd rather put the money towards another 670 a little further down the line.

currently on my 6950 only the primary screen is at 120hz, the other two is 60hz.

 

[Zuban]

Depends on the game and what you deem acceptable. In a lot of games, 1 680 will handle 3 1080p screens at maximum settings OK. In others, SLI is a minimum to get nice image quality and decent frame rates. Plus I personally wouldn't buy a 2GB VRAM card to drive 3 screens. I think you can get away with it with today's games but there are combinations which will make you hit the VRAM ceiling at 5760*1080

thats not really any different to where i am now, i play some games with eyefinity if they run ok on a single card, just played mass effect 3 and it was great across three screens, but i'm happy enough just dropping back down to one screen when the games dont run well enough, so i'm ok with that. Fair point about the 2gb, if i choose to do this i'll bear that in mind.

Part of whats driving this isnt just games as i do 3d rendering and animation i'd like to start doing some 3d in 3d lol.

 

[bee]

Try BF3 and let us know how you get on in 3D surround. You ain't maxing it.

i didn't say every game? i said a lot, i have tried bf3 it runs fine with aa + hdao off but the forced vsync of 3D isn't good for online fps so i play in triple screen 2D maxed

Thanks Bee, i think you've pretty much answered what i wanted to know, last query regarding the dual link dvi adaptor, is that to run the screens at 120hz? if they were run in 60hz is the dual link adapter needed?, I have an active displayport to single link dvi adapter that i use to run the third screen from my 6950 at the moment if that could be used, i'd rather put the money towards another 670 a little further down the line.

if you run them in 60hz then that adaptor should work, mine look terrible in 60hz though? ye i bought a single 680 initially without knowing about the need for the adaptor, i felt the £75 was a waste when i planned to go sli in the future, i ended up getting 670 sli when they launched much cheaper and almost as fast as the 680

 

[Zuban]

if you run them in 60hz then that adaptor should work, mine look terrible in 60hz though? ye i bought a single 680 initially without knowing about the need for the adaptor, i felt the £75 was a waste when i planned to go sli in the future, i ended up getting 670 sli when they launched much cheaper and almost as fast as the 680

cant say if i've noticed a difference in quality between the 60 and 120hz, other than the obvious difference when the fps is high enough, although there does seem to be a tiny difference in the colours between the primary @ 120hz and the two other screens @60hz, i've never really been sure why that is given i've applied the same calibration settings to all three but perhaps thats why!

anyway yeah i think i'd rather put that money towards a second 670 and just live with it until i could get a second card.

Thanks though, going to give it some serious thought now, tbh i'll probably have ordered a 670 by the end of the week

 

[Rusty0611]

It's more a difference in fluidity than static screen differences. If you have both 60/120 try moving/dragging a small window (say Chrome) around on both screens an you should see the difference. The 60hz feels almost laggy alongside it.

 

[MichaelM]

If you are planning to use 3D in online first person shooters like BF3 then I would say don't waste your money. I bought a cheap 2nd hand kit to try out and it sacrifices picture clarity so much that anything at a distance is nearly impossible to aim at because the frames are ghosting on top of each other. You get a bit use to it after a little while but if you shift focus onto one thing (score, health, etc.) it makes everything blurry and eyes take time to re-adjust.

I think Portal 2 looks great with it but anything fast paced and it's a mess, you'd want to be playing something like a racing game, RTS or side scroller. Apart from that I still think it's just an expensive gimmick.

 

[mrh2019]

I'm sorry but the LG monitor is not compatible with Nvidia 3D Vision.

With the setup you have you will have to go down the AMD version of 3D.

Sorry my mistake, should off googled it thought they where the current range of LG monitors not 2 year old ones.

I’ve had 3 different 3D Vision monitors right from the first gen Samsung to Acer and now Benq XL2420T, using 3D Vision 2 is a big leap forward and make a huge difference. The image is so much brighter and the crosstalk has improved no end, seem to get less eye strain with it as well… worth in investment…

Also if you are going to run 3 monitors to future proof yourself do get the 4GB GTX670 cards.

 

[jamjar]

1 card is enough for triple screen 2D or single screen 3D yes, 1 thing to note though is you will need a dual link dvi to displayport adaptor (£75!) to run 3 x 120hz monitors off 1 card, with 2 cards you dont need the adaptor

3D vision is not for everyone, it really is a try for yourself kind of thing. been using mine for over 2 years now and whilst i certainly don't play every game in 3D i do still use it on a weekly basis. longest i've played in 1 sitting was around 3 hours and i suffered no ill effects from it. if you have those 3 monitors already theres zero point in upgrading for very marginally better 3D performance, those LG monitors actually give me a better experience in 3D than my old, much more expensive benq 2410t

I am interested in getting a LGW2363D 3D monitor i,m not a gamer but love to watch blu ray films and 3d films too would you say its better than the Benq ?

 

[mrh2019]

I am interested in getting a LGW2363D 3D monitor i,m not a gamer but love to watch blu ray films and 3d films too would you say its better than the Benq ?

Hi you asked question before about passive/active glasses, you mentioned about have a Sony TV another room if that's 3D that will be comparable with 3D Vision 2 monitors i.e. the Benq XL2420T, the earlier NON 3D Vision 2 monitors are a lot darker you will see a difference...
If you can afford it Asus do a 27" Vision 2 monitor that would be great for watching films and games,,

 

[Zuban]

Ok so i ordered a kfa2 670 oc yesterday from ocuk so hopefully will have it tommorow, just went for the 2gb version, cant even justify this let alone the 4gig one!.

regarding the drivers i am switching from an ati 6950, is there any particular order i should do things in?

 

[mrh2019]

Ok so i ordered a kfa2 670 oc yesterday from ocuk so hopefully will have it tommorow, just went for the 2gb version, cant even justify this let alone the 4gig one!.

regarding the drivers i am switching from an ati 6950, is there any particular order i should do things in?

Do a normal uninstall from the control panel, and use driver sweeper to remove the rest of the AMD drivers.
Use the newer Nvidia Beta drivers mentioned in a different thread..
Job done and enjoy

 

[Rusty0611]

Do a normal uninstall from the control panel, and use driver sweeper to remove the rest of the AMD drivers.
Use the newer Nvidia Beta drivers mentioned in a different thread..
Job done and enjoy

No need to run Driver Sweeper.