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NVIDIA 4000 Series

Is Nvidia actively trying to insult the consumer?
If only "insult" is all that they actively trying to throw at consumer that's fine as no real harm is done, but instead of they constantly try screw them over for the sake of profit as well...

I still remember how back in around 2010, "officially" the Nvidia cards could not be use as PhysX card with the primary card being AMD (ATI) due to Nvidia scummily coded PhysX to disable itself when detecting a "non-Nvidia GPU" in the system (including onboard GPU), but a developer made a modded driver that allowed users bypass that. However Nvidia was having none of it and they harassed the poor guy by threatening him legal letters, forced him into pull the plug on the development and shut down his site. As a consumer I could have played Batman using my 5850 and with my 9800GTX+ (which I already owned and paid for) for PhysX, but nope thanks to Nvidia.

Some Nvidia users like to keep saying "the companies are not your friend" trying to pass off AMD as just as bad as Nvidia to try to establish themselves as being "neutral" and is "not a fanboi of either camp", but the fact is Nvidia has long history of pulling all sort of anti-consumer practise. There's also that incident Crysis 2 Tessellation Water underground for the sake of showing off their superior Tessellation performance over AMD at the cost of hurting performance of Nvidia users in the game.
 
Very well said, this is often treated as your anti-nvidia, or an AMD fanboy etc. but its just accepting that as a company they do not come across as one that is helpful or accomodating to consumers but still often gets defended by tribalists. There is nothing wrong with being critical of companies or highlighting their behaviour.
 

I'd take a 3080 for $420 if any UK retailers want to follow...

edit: oops that's not really a 4000 series thing.
 
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I'd take a 3080 for $420 if any UK retailers want to follow...

edit: oops that's not really a 4000 series thing.
It's funny because they are cutting prices on cards that don't even exist. They did that here with the 3090 fe and not once were they available to buy at that price, the only card that was available was the 3090ti and that was a $2k card and even with the reduction it was still over priced. Nvidia really are playing silly games on their aibs that still do have some stock of these cards and forcing them in some ways to reduce the prices because the FE cards now cost this but don't even exist. :rolleyes:

You can't even make this stuff up. AIBS really need to tell Nvidia where to stick it if this is their games now. EVGA clearly saw all this coming and the damage this will do to them.
 
It's funny because they are cutting prices on cards that don't even exist. They did that here with the 3090 fe and not once were they available to buy at that price, the only card that was available was the 3090ti and that was a $2k card and even with the reduction it was still over priced. Nvidia really are playing silly games on their aibs that still do have some stock of these cards and forcing them in some ways to reduce the prices because the FE cards now cost this but don't even exist. :rolleyes:

You can't even make this stuff up. AIBS really need to tell Nvidia where to stick it if this is their games now. EVGA clearly saw all this coming and the damage this will do to them.
I can't remember the last time I saw a 3 series FE in stock in UK. I thought they had warehouses full of the things.
 
This GPU is clearly real:

AD104-250-GPU.jpg


I think where we are repeatedly let down by tech journalism websites, is the constant speculation /assertion, which soon becomes something that everyone else (Twitter for example) bases their own speculation on.

Specifically, I mean the fact that they keep stating that this GPU will be used for RTX 4070 cards. It's actually impossible to tell just by looking at the chip...

Equally likely, is that it will be used in the RTX 4060 TI. The trap they fall into, is that it's quite possible that there is no information at all about the RTX 4070, but they know that people really want to hear about this particular model.

If it is going to be used for the RTX 4060 TI, it's quite possible we could see this card being released in late March, or April, with the RTX 4070 releasing perhaps a month later.

Edit - You can see that the RTX 3070 and RTX 3070 TI were actually GA104-300-A1 and GA104-400-A1 respectively.

The RTX 4070 TI chip is the AD104-400-A1. Therefore seems pretty reasonable to think that the RTX 4070 chip will actually be 'AD104-300-A1'.
 
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This GPU is clearly real:

AD104-250-GPU.jpg


I think where we are repeatedly let down by tech journalism websites, is the constant speculation /assertion, which soon becomes something that everyone else bases their own speculation on.

Specifically, I mean the fact that they keep stating that this GPU will be used the RTX 4070 cards. It's actually impossible to tell just by looking at the chip...

Equally likely, is that it will be used in the RTX 4060 TI. The trap they fall into, is that it's quite possible that there is no information at all about the RTX 4070, but they know that people really want to hear about this particular model.

If it is going to be used for the RTX 4060 TI, it's quite possible we could see this card being released in late March, or April.

What do you mean let down.

We know full well who's making an effort to report news, who's churning out pure drivel to people desperate for drivel and the sites which copy paste news AND drivel with a pinch of editorialising in the style of homework copying.
 
@Gibbo Do you know if the current stock of the 4090 Suprim X is the newer version, Apparently the only way to tell is by the placement of the serial number on the cards though and some have reported card came in an outer brown MSI box.
 
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I'd take a 3080 for $420 if any UK retailers want to follow...

edit: oops that's not really a 4000 series thing.
why dont you just get one from ocuk then. go b grade they 400 quid. :D
 
I can't remember the last time I saw a 3 series FE in stock in UK. I thought they had warehouses full of the things.
probably have but they want people to buy as many 4 series as possible at higher price also before the mid range 4 series comes out as then most of the 3 series are irrelevant. then stock will probably go on sale. laptops with midrange parts are out in a week. maybe so the 4 series mid range cards.
 
That makes no sense, just set a custom fan profile.

Yeah absolutey. Afterburner is so straight forward to use for stuff like that. I've done it so mine doesn't exceed 50% fan speed up until 70 degrees.

I power limit mine to about 85%, drops the power usage for minimal fps difference. I've been staying under 70 degrees in everything I play. Usually about 60ish on demanding games.
 
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