So how much of this in terms of chip allocation to each class of card is actually true?
The 4070Ti is now the $900 4080.
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The 4070Ti is now the $900 4080.
Its doesn't. RTX 4000 exclusive.
Apparently DLSS 3 will work on RTX gpus, just not all of the features which make up DLSS now i.e. frame generation:
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So essentially everything that makes DLSS 3, DLSS 3.
Apparently DLSS 3 will work on RTX gpus, just not all of the features which make up DLSS now i.e. frame generation:
Nvidia is pulling a USB/HDMI move here, renaming DLSS 2 into DLSS 3 with reduced features, just to say their last gens also support DLSS 3. Like when HDMI rebranded HDMI 2.0 into 2.1 with reduced bandwidth.
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Have there been any official performance figures for the 4090 release to date?
I can see a bunch of upset consumer due to the significant price increase from 30 to 40 gen, but is the price vs. performance known yet?
I ask as the 4090 die is 75B transistors and the 3090 die is 28B. There's obviously a lot more cache on the 4090, but that's A LOT of transistors...
I can see a bunch of upset consumer due to the significant price increase from 30 to 40 gen, but is the price vs. performance known yet?
I ask as the 4090 die is 75B transistors and the 3090 die is 28B. There's obviously a lot more cache on the 4090, but that's A LOT of transistors...
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Yeah you can tell, the video plays the Nvidia marketing role hard, and yet again calling Nvidia's slides "rasterisation performance" without citing the disclaimer in them that states they are all DLSS benchmarks, at this point i think they have all been briefed by Nvidia to call it rasterisation performance and to ignore the disclaimer.
With all these reviewers so on board with playing the Nvidia marketing arm can they even be trusted anymore? This is how Nvidia get you to buy their overpriced inefficient crap, they make a Stalinist state out of tech journalism, praise the party... Long Live Jenson.
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They're selling "an experience" rather than a GPU these days.
Whilst true with the omission of frame generation, we are getting 2/3 new additions from v3 so to say we aren't getting dlss 3 at all isn't quite 100% correct.
Obviously the main one has been withheld to boost 40xx sales, although I imagine there could be some truth to Bryans answer i.e. "ampere and turing owners will complain about IQ and it being laggy", which is entirely possible if the hardware isn't good enough or/and they have to put extra resources in to get better results from ampere and turing when using all of dlss 3 features and as a result this would tarnish the reputation dlss has currently i.e. the best up sampling scaler currently on the market suddenly starts getting image artifacts, lag, ghosting etc. which you know sites will slate compared to fsr and xess, not exactly something they will want as of now i.e. they won't want another **** show of dlss 1 all over again.
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Are those 2/3 actually new additions or just the same things from DLSS 2? Because they literally said:
If DLSS 3 is a superset of DLSS 2, that means DLSS super resolution and Reflex have just been migrated from DLSS 2 into DLSS 3. They never said a word about any improvements to DLSS super resolution or Reflex.
Apart from what it's called, it seems like 30x0 series won't be getting any actual new features.
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I wonder if the 4000 series will play nicely with Gen12 renderer?
Reads to me like those are new additions to dlss:
I know we can use reflex and it is usually an option in the game menu to enable, first I have heard of dlss 2/3 utilizing/combining with reflex?
Apparently there will be an article explaining it more in depth soon from nvidia.
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Re-reading it, could be 2 ways to take it i.e. this bit which does insinuate that dlss 2 already has these:
Certainly is confusing!
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The descriptions are deliberately vague. I don't interpret this as if there are any additional unnamed features. Also:
"will continue to benefit" generally means they've been benefiting from it before. Just seems like a confirmation of the fact that older RTX cards will continue to have the features they've been having and will get support/updates, rather than anything else.
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Yup see my edit above, 2 meanings.
I did see nvidia rep stating there would be a more in depth article explaining it soon so guess wait and see.
First I have heard of reflex being used with dlss 2.
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at the 4 min 44 second mark they show Nvidia slides about the processing power increase. I noticed that a vast majority of the improvement is in the Tensor cores (Just over 10x since Turing). The RT cores have only had 4x increase since Turing. You would thought that RT cores would have had a more substantial bump over two generations.
love the opening at the oven .. How true really, that's how I felt the minute he showed the pricing for the 80 class cards and no NVLINK on 90 class.